I think I hear you shastatodd, but can you hash out the "limits to growth" elephant for my friends who don't?
and once again, the "limits to growth" elephant in the room is ignored... smhthis is NOT political, it is math and science.
Well if the premise of Berry's argument is that Rich's "conventional wisdom conveniently ignores the decades of destructive economic forces rural communities have endured since the Eisenhower administration—a crony-capitalist-facilitated “plundering” of everything not tied down—and the absence of any effective political response from Democrats in Washington," than I agree. This isn't city boy versus country boy. This is capitalism and its voracious appetite to devour all small companies, industries, storefronts and shops (farming included) to maximize profit over all other values and siphon that profit out of communities. It seems in America it is anathema to call out capitalism for what it does (e.g. Nancy Pelosi's "we are a capitalistic country) to working people no matter what industry. The financial and industrial giants now rule our government and do so unashamedly. Where they once pretended to care about our nation because they were held in check by a working class that took to the streets in the Great Depression, they plutocrats have dispensed with all pretense and ignore any niceties they found necessary. Working people in the de-industrialized and decaying cities of Ohio (Dayton, Youngstown, Toledo, Akron, Cleveland) have much in common with their rural brothers and sisters in the state. For once it would be nice if the Democratic Party supporters see the real movers behind what is going on and not blame the supposed "deplorables."
Democrats rode the Newt Gingrich wave with Bill Clintons political skills. The Rush Limbaugh/ Fox News factless assault on truth abetted by the Koch bros and their like has continued.... The Democrats (Hillary for example..) put their feet in the swamp and got more and more sucked into the morass while the Republicans live there. They are happy there. Democrats held their nose and got along somewhat. Along comes Trump and suddenly the Democrats get all the blame.Now I like Wendell Berry. BUT...his rebuttal is beside the point however eloquent.
There are plenty of Democrats in these rural states. They didn't vote for Trump. They liked Bernie's message. Trump is the blind mouse that found the cheese, when he co opted Bernies message.
Clinton's problem was that she had baggage smeared over her by the Rush/ Fox media machine and that she defeated Bernie and that she is a woman.
Now we have Trump and his cronies. We are so close to all of us getting screwed.
Thank God he keeps shooting himself in the foot.
I live in the rural South. .People are scared and desperate. You used to be able to get by..Not do great but get by. Now it's getting hard to do that.
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