I say the workers become confrontational to protect their rights !
As for the law, it is becoming ineffective and/or selling out to the wealthy. Eventually people will have to set up an alternative to government to protect their rights.
Posted by Aneesia on Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Lets see, You Union is the only Union you can go to, so -if they don’t measure up there’s no consequence for them.( Notice the “only one” aspect of this?)
So, a Monopoly on Representation offers less of a guarantee, and voting for cherry picked folks to compose that entity is not working out…
why? —Because You have put over yourselves
(actually you didn’t have a choice did you? - the Union was compulsory, I guess that didn’t workout, you must be so pissed! -I would be!!!) the very Monopoly of power right above you, and human nature is showing it’s bad side.
You can not choose a better preforming Union, so this old “institutionalized conflict of interest” not unlike other religious tenets fail the test of time, more disappointments to come, and to think you will now see unavailability to correction after lips service and placation (which you will be required to go along with) so get ready,
it’s a new day!
The very source of Mediocrity unsurprisingly, demonstrates dubious Mediocrity in its inaction in representation of a member.
It’s no wonder a long article to gloss over that plain and obvious narrative here.
oxoxoxo
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM
and where is OHBEWANNA on this? Out playing golf
You idjits reelected this clown for 4 more years of free work….
how could you be so stupid the signs were there during his first 4 years in office?
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM
“Confrontational” when practiced outside of the established Organized protocol can potentially be seen as “going over someone” or “Grand standing”, I’m replying to bring this to your mind as to the actual reasons way, one would not be so enthusiastic about you encouragements.
And then comes to Moralizing part of your comment.
Here, we omit religious words like “sin”, and replace with words like “wealthy” and then the compelling stuffs of religious non-thought are tapped into.
Offering nothing of systemic certitude, which was what our Unions promised us all, it appears what they provide requires all this risk, and then the higher ups are insulated like priesthood and then folks who work for a living need to take the hit for the love of a fantastic futurism, complete with finally a Government that doesn’t have such an hearing problem, even the democrats can only hear what works for them not us-Maybe a little less Occupy Facebook time and a little more real time reality on the work place could be of assistance, people feel lied to, but they know better than to speak up.
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Fact Checked ( not by FactCheck.org):
Really Big Golfing Millionaires are typically not as fondly handled by such parties, unless your the special candidate for which all exemptions fall right into place.
What was the definition of hypocritical again?
Wait, those “idjits” will show up with signs demanding more of something in the next 4 years anyway, I’m still wondering what was the difference.
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM
All ya have to do is place your resume on CL…and i usually get 20-30 40 job offers a week….of course NONE of them can state the pay
Unlimited income the sky is the limit, when i make money you make money…
The internship scam has really picked up a lot under Ohbewanna…. would a R be any better
YES because you would have be beatching and complaining for years….but we cant criticize Ohbewanna cause hes… like BLACK!
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM
In the early 2000’s Jeb Bush dismantled the Florida’s DOL. What we’re seeing is laws with no enforcement. In Florida we’ve taken matters into our own hands and passed wage theft ordinances on the county level in Miami-Dade and Broward. I’m currently working on one in Alachua County.
Posted by Jeremiah Tattersall on Feb 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Corporate rules workers are fools America the Beautiful, free, and fair? Hell No! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! $microsoft! $microsoft! patents a language from you! Monsanto! Monsanto! to patent your sperm if they can! You Were proletariat, you became precariat, you are totally disenfranchised! GMO’s and artificial sweeteners, even fluoride in your drinking water make you so dumbed down you can’t fight back while war rages on, your sons, and daughters, cannon fodder for the lucky ones, drug addicts drunks and shores for the others - Gaming computers deigned to keep your minds mushed while even Chinese rob the corporations files! Dark Horse on the horizon America! Dark Horse indeed.
Posted by Bruce Miller on Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Are you capable of reading? This is a serious question, as this article concerns low-wage or hourly employees who are not in a union.
Posted by Rachael Batten on Feb 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM
You might be the least intelligent person I’ve ever come across. The President is now to blame for the illegal and greedy behavior of private employers around the country? The President is now to blame for the decisions made by Republican state Governors and legislatures to gut these agencies at the urging of the Chamber of Commerce?
Please..just go away. You are beyond ridiculous.
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM
Sure you do…super hero man.
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:39 PM
This article primarily focuses on states who just happen to be “Right to Work” states where unions are virtually nonexistent. Any other irrelevant nonsense that you’d like to contribute?
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Welcome to the jungle.
Posted by f_galton on Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM
You idiot just try it….You will get plenty of job offers in this economy…..and everyone can be working for FREE…...
Maybe you live in your moms basement and can work for free or on commission but I cant i need to know what i get paid each week.
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM
you are an idiot
Posted by Tony Zigarovich on Feb 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Stop using Craigs List.
Posted by Lynn Fox on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
The President,has nothing to do with this. Condggitt, and if you notice, they are talking about republican run states.They don’t want people to live on welfare, But don’t wait for rich republicans to pay them. Even if they owe money to people they will never get it. They seem to think that slavery is alive and well.
Posted by Dee, on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM
An affordable LegalShield Family Plan is designed specifically for individuals such as this gentleman to protect his rights in situations such as these. https://www.legalshield.com/MS…
Posted by Walter Shorts on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Out here in California we have a legion of private investigators who pursue wage theft claims. Most of them work for unions who use them to keep what remains of the honest market in existence. Were it not for these private eyes the whole bottom would drop out of the construction market for legitimate contractors. This is what it means when the conservatives get government off your back—they mean off the backs of crooked employers, and the worker is out of luck. I have pursued this work for various unions for a generation and there is no shortage of violators. Imagine if this situation prevailed in any other area of law—if you had to hire somebody to get your burglary investigated or your money back in a stock swindle. What’s worse is that the violators are now corporate giants as well as fly-by-night firms. Cheating workers is just good business when there are so few cops on the beat.
Posted by Mack on Feb 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM
As we’ve tried to tell US progressives and the middle class for years, watch what is done to the poor in this country to have a good idea of what the future holds for those still in the middle class. Unfortunately, neither were interested.
Posted by DHFabian on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM
UH Lynn do you think Monster or yahoo or simply hired is any better?.....
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Micheal…like um he is a supposed president….He has a MOUTH and can use it to stop this illegal and greedy behavior…but he likes golf more
So suffer…stop complaining he is your president and YOU re elected him
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Here in Texas, we were able to get a law passed at the state level that broadly defined theft of service as when a worker does work expecting to be paid and then isn’t. It’s a criminal offense, but police barely even know about it to file cases.
Wage theft is a huge problem in a lot of low-wage industries. We just did this report that shows one in five construction workers experiences wage theft in TX and there are all sorts of other issues going on as well - calling workers independent contractors, cutting corners with safety, threatening workers with deportation or their jobs, and more. It’s shocking how normalized these practices have become:
http://www.workersdefense.org/...
Posted by Amy on Feb 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM
And who did YOU vote for, the Mormon moron who bought companies and then gutted them running with the bug-eyed muppet who wants Granny dead as soon as possible so her Social Security and Medicare money can be diverted into the pockets of the already rich?
Posted by Cerberus79 on Feb 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Ça ira!
Build guillontines!
Posted by NickDanger007 on Feb 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM
This is happening alot in New England also.I am an organizer for the New England Carpenters Union.This is common in the construction business.What i do i get the workers to protest against the G.C. or end user (developer) The victims empower themselves lose some of that fear that they have because of their immigration stadus and fight back with these actions on the project or the owners office.But this is AMERICA this is not suppose to happen here.Workers need to organize against their employer then they will have a fighting chance.This is why we do need UNION today in AMERICA.Educate,Agitate & organize…United we Stand devided we Begggg….
Posted by Manny G. on Feb 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM
oh there’s that race card I’m always hearing so much about. Honestly, you should feel free to criticize Obama all you want. There are many valid criticisms one could make. Obama has made some extremely immoral unconstitutional moves in the war against terror, and his D.O.J. basically wiped the big banks ass after they took an illegal crap all over the economy. The thing is, he’s not to blame for the wage theft epidemic. The origins are identified in the article - US Chamber of Commerce (a right wing org) lobbies hard to weaken enforcement of labor laws. Voting D isn’t a guaranteed win for labor, but voting R is a guaranteed loss
Posted by ben on Feb 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM
the bible law says you pay each day not weekly but each day but what do you expect within a tax base which is criminal it self
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM
dear brother so those workers are illegal ? then they have no status and the employer is criminal liable for hiring them they will not get paid aspaying illegal is illegal aiding and betting it is , frankly if there legal however they can file a court action civil wise or 93 action . or criminally as to intent there after there property can be lean and they can be reported to many agency as green card person have to be issue SSA numbers and also the AG office handle Davis bacon fraud clams , FREE but the way this is all free if you have zippo for money if these person are your friends and not illegals I will show you what to do brother , massvocals
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM
you could do this also United States vs Kuglin no 03-20111 ( wd. tennaug8 2003 ) falsifying w-4 forms issue of today topic with C
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM
does this site have freedom of speech ? mr . Buren should not be shocked when Virginia’s Department of Labor and
Industry told him that it was up to him to investigate and prosecute his
wage theft claim. unless he files criminal complaint by plain theft with the police or he could file civil court case or filr UCC lean on the employer and project site most jobs have liability insurance claim he get no where seeking out the contractor following him around ,
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 6:07 PM
everything in most cases you have to do in court as plaintiff on defendant its the way it is who needs big brother
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 6:11 PM
It’s been progressives who have been sounding the alarm about these things for decades, moron.
Posted by Aquaria on Mar 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM
I’ve been saying for a decade that this is what it will take for the rich and their fellaters to stop robbing the rest of us blind.
Posted by Aquaria on Mar 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Reader Comments
I say the workers become confrontational to protect their rights !
As for the law, it is becoming ineffective and/or selling out to the wealthy. Eventually people will have to set up an alternative to government to protect their rights.
Posted by Aneesia on Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Lets see, You Union is the only Union you can go to, so -if they don’t measure up there’s no consequence for them.( Notice the “only one” aspect of this?)
So, a Monopoly on Representation offers less of a guarantee, and voting for cherry picked folks to compose that entity is not working out…
why? —Because You have put over yourselves
(actually you didn’t have a choice did you? - the Union was compulsory, I guess that didn’t workout, you must be so pissed! -I would be!!!) the very Monopoly of power right above you, and human nature is showing it’s bad side.
You can not choose a better preforming Union, so this old “institutionalized conflict of interest” not unlike other religious tenets fail the test of time, more disappointments to come, and to think you will now see unavailability to correction after lips service and placation (which you will be required to go along with) so get ready,
it’s a new day!
The very source of Mediocrity unsurprisingly, demonstrates dubious Mediocrity in its inaction in representation of a member.
It’s no wonder a long article to gloss over that plain and obvious narrative here.
oxoxoxo
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM
and where is OHBEWANNA on this? Out playing golf
You idjits reelected this clown for 4 more years of free work….
how could you be so stupid the signs were there during his first 4 years in office?
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM
“Confrontational” when practiced outside of the established Organized protocol can potentially be seen as “going over someone” or “Grand standing”, I’m replying to bring this to your mind as to the actual reasons way, one would not be so enthusiastic about you encouragements.
And then comes to Moralizing part of your comment.
Here, we omit religious words like “sin”, and replace with words like “wealthy” and then the compelling stuffs of religious non-thought are tapped into.
Offering nothing of systemic certitude, which was what our Unions promised us all, it appears what they provide requires all this risk, and then the higher ups are insulated like priesthood and then folks who work for a living need to take the hit for the love of a fantastic futurism, complete with finally a Government that doesn’t have such an hearing problem, even the democrats can only hear what works for them not us-Maybe a little less Occupy Facebook time and a little more real time reality on the work place could be of assistance, people feel lied to, but they know better than to speak up.
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Fact Checked ( not by FactCheck.org):
Really Big Golfing Millionaires are typically not as fondly handled by such parties, unless your the special candidate for which all exemptions fall right into place.
What was the definition of hypocritical again?
Wait, those “idjits” will show up with signs demanding more of something in the next 4 years anyway, I’m still wondering what was the difference.
Posted by Robynne Merguerdijian on Feb 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM
All ya have to do is place your resume on CL…and i usually get 20-30 40 job offers a week….of course NONE of them can state the pay
Unlimited income the sky is the limit, when i make money you make money…
The internship scam has really picked up a lot under Ohbewanna…. would a R be any better
YES because you would have be beatching and complaining for years….but we cant criticize Ohbewanna cause hes… like BLACK!
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM
In the early 2000’s Jeb Bush dismantled the Florida’s DOL. What we’re seeing is laws with no enforcement. In Florida we’ve taken matters into our own hands and passed wage theft ordinances on the county level in Miami-Dade and Broward. I’m currently working on one in Alachua County.
Posted by Jeremiah Tattersall on Feb 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Corporate rules workers are fools America the Beautiful, free, and fair? Hell No! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! $microsoft! $microsoft! patents a language from you! Monsanto! Monsanto! to patent your sperm if they can! You Were proletariat, you became precariat, you are totally disenfranchised! GMO’s and artificial sweeteners, even fluoride in your drinking water make you so dumbed down you can’t fight back while war rages on, your sons, and daughters, cannon fodder for the lucky ones, drug addicts drunks and shores for the others - Gaming computers deigned to keep your minds mushed while even Chinese rob the corporations files! Dark Horse on the horizon America! Dark Horse indeed.
Posted by Bruce Miller on Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Are you capable of reading? This is a serious question, as this article concerns low-wage or hourly employees who are not in a union.
Posted by Rachael Batten on Feb 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM
You might be the least intelligent person I’ve ever come across. The President is now to blame for the illegal and greedy behavior of private employers around the country? The President is now to blame for the decisions made by Republican state Governors and legislatures to gut these agencies at the urging of the Chamber of Commerce?
Please..just go away. You are beyond ridiculous.
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM
Sure you do…super hero man.
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:39 PM
This article primarily focuses on states who just happen to be “Right to Work” states where unions are virtually nonexistent. Any other irrelevant nonsense that you’d like to contribute?
Posted by Michael Cruise on Feb 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Welcome to the jungle.
Posted by f_galton on Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM
You idiot just try it….You will get plenty of job offers in this economy…..and everyone can be working for FREE…...
Maybe you live in your moms basement and can work for free or on commission but I cant i need to know what i get paid each week.
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM
you are an idiot
Posted by Tony Zigarovich on Feb 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Stop using Craigs List.
Posted by Lynn Fox on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
The President,has nothing to do with this. Condggitt, and if you notice, they are talking about republican run states.They don’t want people to live on welfare, But don’t wait for rich republicans to pay them. Even if they owe money to people they will never get it. They seem to think that slavery is alive and well.
Posted by Dee, on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM
An affordable LegalShield Family Plan is designed specifically for individuals such as this gentleman to protect his rights in situations such as these. https://www.legalshield.com/MS…
Posted by Walter Shorts on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Out here in California we have a legion of private investigators who pursue wage theft claims. Most of them work for unions who use them to keep what remains of the honest market in existence. Were it not for these private eyes the whole bottom would drop out of the construction market for legitimate contractors. This is what it means when the conservatives get government off your back—they mean off the backs of crooked employers, and the worker is out of luck. I have pursued this work for various unions for a generation and there is no shortage of violators. Imagine if this situation prevailed in any other area of law—if you had to hire somebody to get your burglary investigated or your money back in a stock swindle. What’s worse is that the violators are now corporate giants as well as fly-by-night firms. Cheating workers is just good business when there are so few cops on the beat.
Posted by Mack on Feb 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM
As we’ve tried to tell US progressives and the middle class for years, watch what is done to the poor in this country to have a good idea of what the future holds for those still in the middle class. Unfortunately, neither were interested.
Posted by DHFabian on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM
UH Lynn do you think Monster or yahoo or simply hired is any better?.....
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Micheal…like um he is a supposed president….He has a MOUTH and can use it to stop this illegal and greedy behavior…but he likes golf more
So suffer…stop complaining he is your president and YOU re elected him
Posted by condaggitt on Feb 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Here in Texas, we were able to get a law passed at the state level that broadly defined theft of service as when a worker does work expecting to be paid and then isn’t. It’s a criminal offense, but police barely even know about it to file cases.
Wage theft is a huge problem in a lot of low-wage industries. We just did this report that shows one in five construction workers experiences wage theft in TX and there are all sorts of other issues going on as well - calling workers independent contractors, cutting corners with safety, threatening workers with deportation or their jobs, and more. It’s shocking how normalized these practices have become:
http://www.workersdefense.org/...
Posted by Amy on Feb 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM
And who did YOU vote for, the Mormon moron who bought companies and then gutted them running with the bug-eyed muppet who wants Granny dead as soon as possible so her Social Security and Medicare money can be diverted into the pockets of the already rich?
Posted by Cerberus79 on Feb 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Ça ira!
Build guillontines!
Posted by NickDanger007 on Feb 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM
This is happening alot in New England also.I am an organizer for the New England Carpenters Union.This is common in the construction business.What i do i get the workers to protest against the G.C. or end user (developer) The victims empower themselves lose some of that fear that they have because of their immigration stadus and fight back with these actions on the project or the owners office.But this is AMERICA this is not suppose to happen here.Workers need to organize against their employer then they will have a fighting chance.This is why we do need UNION today in AMERICA.Educate,Agitate & organize…United we Stand devided we Begggg….
Posted by Manny G. on Feb 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM
oh there’s that race card I’m always hearing so much about. Honestly, you should feel free to criticize Obama all you want. There are many valid criticisms one could make. Obama has made some extremely immoral unconstitutional moves in the war against terror, and his D.O.J. basically wiped the big banks ass after they took an illegal crap all over the economy. The thing is, he’s not to blame for the wage theft epidemic. The origins are identified in the article - US Chamber of Commerce (a right wing org) lobbies hard to weaken enforcement of labor laws. Voting D isn’t a guaranteed win for labor, but voting R is a guaranteed loss
Posted by ben on Feb 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM
the bible law says you pay each day not weekly but each day but what do you expect within a tax base which is criminal it self
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM
dear brother so those workers are illegal ? then they have no status and the employer is criminal liable for hiring them they will not get paid aspaying illegal is illegal aiding and betting it is , frankly if there legal however they can file a court action civil wise or 93 action . or criminally as to intent there after there property can be lean and they can be reported to many agency as green card person have to be issue SSA numbers and also the AG office handle Davis bacon fraud clams , FREE but the way this is all free if you have zippo for money if these person are your friends and not illegals I will show you what to do brother , massvocals
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM
you could do this also United States vs Kuglin no 03-20111 ( wd. tennaug8 2003 ) falsifying w-4 forms issue of today topic with C
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM
does this site have freedom of speech ? mr . Buren should not be shocked when Virginia’s Department of Labor and
Industry told him that it was up to him to investigate and prosecute his
wage theft claim. unless he files criminal complaint by plain theft with the police or he could file civil court case or filr UCC lean on the employer and project site most jobs have liability insurance claim he get no where seeking out the contractor following him around ,
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 6:07 PM
everything in most cases you have to do in court as plaintiff on defendant its the way it is who needs big brother
Posted by Mass Vocals on Feb 27, 2013 at 6:11 PM
It’s been progressives who have been sounding the alarm about these things for decades, moron.
Posted by Aquaria on Mar 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM
I’ve been saying for a decade that this is what it will take for the rich and their fellaters to stop robbing the rest of us blind.
Posted by Aquaria on Mar 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM