I find it very encouraging that someone has thought to make this subject a matter of public discourse. As an African American male, I have always been aware of these issues, but I have always felt so isolated. This isolation is twofold:
1. There is such a widespread denial of racism in America that any attempt to address your pain is dismissed, if not, laughed at. White people generally respond with a cold, injurious attitude by saying that black people are merely looking for handouts. It is this form of racism that has fueled the conservative agenda. This attitiude not only reinforces the denial, but deepens the wound and the bitterness. To make matters even worse, in a white dominated society, particularly the workplace, where the institutional and micro-expressions of racism are ubiquitous, white people will justify their denial by befriending a black person as a sign of respecting black people, as long as the issue of pain or racism is not an issue. This is also carried into the realm of politics. How else can we explain the presence of Condeleeza Rice as a member of the Bush administration? To promote racial healing or to deny it? This is what Benjamin DeMott referred to as “The Trouble with Friendship.”
2. The effects of Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome also results in denial within the African American community. There are many black people who, with a need to appear “normal” in terms of their integration in white social spheres or professional fields, or who cloak their pain in the veils of professionalism, academic achievement and self-sufficiency. This in turn affects their political orientations, such as supporting affirmative action and other social measures to ease the pain of oppression.
In the process of my own awakening to these issues, I gravitated towards Franz Fanon who wrote the wonderful book “Black Skin, White Masks” which focuses on the psychological trauma of racism. Caught in the chain of tramatic repetition, Fanon recalled being hailed by a boy “Look, Mama, A Negro.”
“On that day, completely dislocated, unable to be abroad with the Other, the white man, who unmercifully imprisoned me, I took myself far off from my own presence, far indeed, and made myself an object. What else could it be for me but an amputation, an excision, a hemorhage that splattered my whole body with black blood?”
Part of the inability of whites to understand the racial pain of black people is due to what Fanon referred to as people resorting to “reason”
to comprehend the “unreason” of racism.
Dr. Joyce DeGruy Leary’s work is a welcoming contribution to the study of pain and healing within the black community.
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 11, 2006 at 7:22 AM
I thought it was interesting that you chose to include an image of Southern cotton fields with this article.
I am a Hispanic-American, the product of a family that, until my father’s generation, worked the cotton fields.
I will always remember one day, when I was young, my uncle took me to an old theater in a small Texas town and told me that when he was a teenager he couldn’t go to the movies because he’d get beaten up if certain people found a “dirty wetback” daring to show his face there.
About the time he finished telling me that, a fellow came up and said to my uncle, “Got a minute, Mr. Mayor?”
That is one of my fondest memories.
I am not dismissing the black experience. I would, however, like to suggest that to think of one’s self as a loser of any sort simply because of your race is to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. My family ascended from poverty because they believed in themselves. That belief, in turn, can only come from within.
And so, speaking as someone only a generation removed from dirt poor, “dirty wetback” sharecroppers, I can only say - believe in yourself and all things become possible. No one else can give you that.
Posted by Phantom on Mar 11, 2006 at 5:47 PM
I would agree that healing is impossible when one ignores the wound; but I would also suggest that in an age when a black man can call for genocide against whites on national television and meet applause for it (I’m referring to Kamau Kambon’s statement on CNN which, where a white to make a similar statement, would be villified, fired from his job, sued and probably physically assaulted) the social pendulum has swung FAR the other way.
Racism in this country is still very much alive and well; but the roles of the haters and the hated have reversed. If we are to combat racism, we ought to take a hand, honest, objective look at reality. Otherwise, we’re not fighting racism, but only fighting each other.
Posted by Legion on Mar 11, 2006 at 10:39 PM
I found the above comment by Phantom to be a very beautiful and sensitive account of a special memory related to cotton fields. This seemed to be mostly in response to the photograph and not to Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.
The second part of the comment alludes to the article but describes the pain of oppression, black oppression, in terms of viewing one’s self as a “loser.” Without sounding too contentious, I’m afraid that comment reflects the level of insensitivity that impedes ones understanding of the topic of Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.
As Dr. Leary as indicated, black people, in spite of the horrid system of white supremacy, has achieved marvels in terms of their ability to survive and reproduce themselves in ways that express the most amazing intelligence and beauty. The courageous struggle of black people is just as heroic as it is painful.
The comment by Legion recalls my earlier reference to “reason” as a response to the “unreason” of racism. I really cannot see how anyone can equate the above recollection of a black person calling for a genocide of whites to be a sign that racism has reversed. Comparing a hateful proposition (a hateful idea) to the actual enslavement and oppression of black people is “unreasonable” and hardly a view of “objective” reality. You cannot be objective about something that has not happend yet, but you can be objective about someting that has happened. I don’t condone hateful comments like that, but it would be interesting to explore even further “the hate that hate produced.”
I feel Legion’s pain at having heard the comment. Take that comment and magnify it a thousand times, multiplied by the brutality of slavery, lynching and Jim Crow, and continued systematic racism, and you may begin to understand why we are trying to have a discussion about Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome and not Pre white anxiety concerning the anger and pain of black people.
I think that Dr. Leary is right when she says that ultimately, the work will have to be done within the black community and not from without. People from without, as I mentioned above, always display a level of insensitivity that is only injurious to the health of black people.
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 12, 2006 at 12:02 AM
Here’s the thing I see Epistrophy missing—slavery no longer exists. No man is any man’s slave except his own. Extremism like that espoused by Dr. Kambon, however, as well as the anti-white racism that deems it unimportant, are real TODAY. No matter how much guilt whites take on, we can never undo the past—but we can, and should, prevent racial-extremist atrocities in the future, rather than justifying the indications that they are coming.
Posted by Legion on Mar 12, 2006 at 12:28 AM
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome is very similar to what has been defined as PTSD Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It is a psychological condition that results from traumatic experiences. Trauma, which can be defined as a physical and mental wound that tears at the tissues of the body and/or mind. In the case of the latter, psychological wounds can persist for centuries, especially if there is the presence of systematic oppression.
Slavery functions somewhat as the primal scene that engendered other forms of oppression over a long period of time. The Civil Rights movement in America, which arguably began during and after slavery and culminated during the 1950s and 60s, was a centuries long movement to end slavery and to put an end to other forms of injustice against black people. That legacy included the persistence of psychological wounds that function like traumatic repetition through the psyches of black people that has engendered a cycle of psychological pain that has severely shaped the minds of many black people. As Dr. Leary discovered many of those people can be found in the prison system. For a very disturbing account of how trauma affects the lives of black people, check out the following article about Pre-Katrina and the prison system titled “Guatanamo on the Mississippi.”
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 12, 2006 at 7:36 AM
Whattheheck: I’m curious as to why a discussion about Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome makes you feel guilty and how you have come take this topic as a personal assault upon your character?
I’m also having a lot of trouble with the contradictions of your remarks. You start with a wonderful quote: “We have to recognize that remnants of racist oppression continue to impact people in this country.
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 12, 2006 at 10:07 AM
The simple fact is that if there is still a *systematic* oppression going on—which is to say, oppression within institutions specifically and society in general—that oppression is no longer directed by white people against minorities, but directed by white people against white people. History is something to learn from, certainly, but to continue to react to history instead of reacting to present realities is not only non-constructive but destructive.
Posted by Legion on Mar 12, 2006 at 5:29 PM
Do I dare mention that a way of seeing humans as being intimately related to one another has become a possibility now that genetic science has demonstrated beyond doubt that all humans are close-kindred..?
I ask because of the angry responses this proposal tends to bring.
Perhaps it’s just too soon for this idea to take hold; maybe not enough time has passed for it to catch on. A handful of centuries ago, there were serious debates in Europe about whether the indigenous populations of the Western Hemisphere qualified as “human”, a debate that today seems almost deliberately stupid. The entire concept of “human rights” was almost unthinkable at that time.
And yet, over time, the idea that enslavement and legal bludgeoning of African-descended people (as well as the other groups who were beat down by law and custom) constituted inexcusable crimes slowly, haltingly, BUT FINALLY, came to light and took hold. So there’s the historical example to sustain my long-term agenda.
One can wish for (hopefully without wrongly being thought to minimize the pain of millions across a period of centuries) and more importantly, try to promote, ideas of human connectedness as opposed to those ideas like racism that lead to outgrouping, vilification, assaultive underestimation, and oppression.
Maybe I’m whistling against a hurricane. Or maybe some seeds just need a longer time to germinate and grow.
Posted by Kuya on Mar 13, 2006 at 12:17 AM
One does what one can, given a complex, hazardous historical and ideological terrain…
And the handicap of being a paleface while speaking in these terms is not inconsiderable! Very difficult to get a respectful hearing.
Posted by Kuya on Mar 13, 2006 at 12:20 AM
Why is it so hard for people to talk about the article that is featured? Why is everyone going on tangents about the universality of the human condition and that racism is ubiquitous, and that actually white people are the victims, etc, therefore making the issue of black suffering, a minor issue or no issue at all?
Why are people so afraid to talk about the specificity of the black experience, without feeling guilty or left out? There is the particular and there is the universal. This article addresses the specificity of the black experience and how slavery, as the primal scene of trauma for black people, has engendered a cycle of trauma or traumatic repetition that has caused serious problems in the black community that need to be addressed in a way that will promote healing. The universality comes from ones ability to identify with the subject of the black experience as a member of the human family.
Why is this so difficult? It almost appears as if the black experience represents for many Americans the collective unconscious, that dark tainted and disturbing history that causes them unpleasant feelings in their waking, conscious moments. The immediate response is to move beyond the particularity of the black experience to the universal, as a defense against addressing the subject in question.
The universality comes from ones ability to identify with the subject of the black experience as a member of the human family, not by avoiding it.
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 13, 2006 at 6:37 AM
Actually, I was not addressing this topic as a personal issue but as a social, historical, and social issue. Your response was personal and because of it, you appeared defensive.
To the right of this comment board the words say “try to remain on topic.” Once we digress into personal experiences, we miss the whole point as to what this article is about. So, I will end my contributions to this dialogue.
Posted by Epistrophy on Mar 13, 2006 at 9:39 AM
You say, “I was not addressing this topic as a personal issue…”
What part of your following question was impersonal?
Posted by whattheheck on Mar 13, 2006 at 12:39 PM
Very interesting interview, I certainly plan to read the book. As a Black man in America I’ve always known that racism had to be some kind of a mental illness. European pursuit of “The systematic dehumanization” of non-Europeans world wide is surely the worst kind of crazy so the victim of this craziness can’t help but develop as many if not more mental health issues trying to make any sense of it.
Posted by theloneous on Mar 13, 2006 at 2:14 PM
Wow, I am really excited about Dr. Leary’s work. Hope to read more about it. I see this sort of work as part of the process of healing the past and making this country, called America really a place where everyone can make it.
As a Native person, I would like to talk to Dr. Leary about how her work could apply to indigenous people. My family has successfully made the transition to be “American Indians” from our tribal identity, but we still mourn the loss of that identity with each elder that dies and with each language that dies, too. Who are we today? I look Indian, but I do not have the language.
American Indian youth have the highest suicide rates, murder rates, school drop out rates, etc, in the country. What does this mean? I know I was lucky to be born into a healthy family, but many others were not. I have cousins living in pain on the rez. It’s tough to watch each generation sink lower and lower. I wish I could stop it, and maybe Dr. Leary has the key to something I can do to help.
I know many comments here are in the variety that we should all just seek to do the best in our lives, regardless of the past. And although a wonderful sentiment in many ways, it does not provide enough support for those who lack the abiltiy to do that. It is not easy for everyone to cast aside that burden. Hence the statistics for suicide, murder, etc. endemic to the darker skinned members of our society. There is a cause, a correlation to American history.
In the present day, a light-skinned Indian person can melt away into the white world so easily. Well, I guess they always could, as the great number of white-appearing progeny of Cherokee Princesses attests to. My dad looks like Dan Rather (who is also Indian/white), so he can “pass”. I find it funny that obviously Indian actors like Johnny Depp and (well, Polynesian) Keanu Reeves, so easily pass for white in this world. They are always cast opposite white women (except in Depps’ self-produced movie where he was Indian). Same with my dad, if he had married a white woman, instead of a full-blood, he could easily blend in and never have to deal with the past. But he did not, and so we do (deal with the past).
On top of this, the media has not kept up with how Americans really look. I mean in the tv shows like Friends and Seinfeld they lived in a nearly entirely white New York City! Walk down the street of the real New York and you will see that more than 50% of the population is brown! Or any of the teen shows which have entirely white casts. In the real world, we work, live and marry in multi-cultural/multi-ethnic America, even in the OC. Why is this not shown? Why is the image of a white America still so predominant? And how does this make the other non-white 50% (in California) feel?
If you feel this it is not true that the image of the “All-American” is blonde and blue-eyed Anglo-Saxonite/Northern European type, I direct you to a recent article that referred to Claudia Schiffer, blonde German model, as “all-American” looking.
Also, I had the experience when I was in highschool of being asked where I as from (and this still frequently happens). When I said, “From here.” The response was (and still is), “No, I mean originally.” And what can I say? My ancestors have always lived here on this continent. I’m a bit French and English (my pinkie and my big toe, respectively) but that is not why they were asking me where I was from. It was because I am not “All-American” looking that I got the question. And my friend standing next to me, a blonde, blue-eyed, All-American looking Norwegian exchange student was not asked the question. She looked like she belonged, I did not.
You must wonder what kind of American that made me feel like. Really, more like a survivor of Americanism and genocide than a member of American society.
Posted by Bahesmama on Mar 20, 2006 at 3:47 PM
Thanks for all of this feedback, folks. Re: Bahesmama’s powerful comments, it’s worth saying that Dr. Leary does make a number of comments (in her book and in person) about how these issues interrelate to those of other ethnic, cultural and religious groups. But her work is unequivocally rooted in the African American experience.
Posted by Silja J.A. Talvi on Mar 24, 2006 at 6:00 PM
Think about this… If slavery had never happened, if the plantation owners never went to Africa back in the 1800’s…. then all of the black people in America today would not be living in America ... THEY WOULD BE LIVING IN AFRICA. No one ever mentions that.
So, Blacks here in America should be glad that slavery happened, otherwise they would be running around the brush with an spear trying to kill an animal for dinner in the middle of Africa.
If anyone Black person is pissed off that their Great, Great Grandfather was shipped to America 150yrs ago… then move to Africa. Because if your Great, Great Grandfather wasn’t a slave you wouldn’t of been born in the USA, you would of been born iin a grass hut in Zombobia and your Mom would be featured on National Geographic Magazine.
Quit Whinning !!!!
Posted by tina1 on Mar 24, 2006 at 7:40 PM
In 2006, to read a post like the one above should be considered an extraordinary, utterly jarring experience.
Unfortunately, it simply exemplifies the most crude form of the “sickness” of which Dr. Leary writes and speaks so eloquently.
Posted by Silja J.A. Talvi on Mar 25, 2006 at 5:49 PM
Slavery has been practiced by just about every group in the world throughout history. It was the Quakers who brought an end to the large scale trafficking in slaves. But slavery persists in various African countries and it was Africans who sold slaves to the Jews and Arabs who controlled the slave trade. Blacks are just looking for another excuse for their failures. What is ‘traumatizing’ for blacks is their low IQ. That’s what holds them back. For Africans it’s only around 70 which is borderline retarded. In America, the black average is only 85 which is one standard deviation below the white mean. If blacks think they have it so bad, go back to Africa. You can starve there along with the rest of your kin. Good riddance.
Posted by bigmomma on Mar 26, 2006 at 10:31 AM
I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts as to the future of racism in America. I am 20 years old and tend to believe that my generation is more or less race blind to a degree. I hope that when all the old people that remember the 60’s die their corrupted socialization will die with them. Please don’t take offense if you fall into that catagory. I feel some times that I have unwanted beliefs within me. As a white( whatever that means) male I am unable to help my own awareness and prejudice between the races, but it is important to me to stop and reilize that those are not my beliefs. Yes they are a part of who I am, but I try very hard to be just and equitable towards my peers both in the mind and in the action. I am wondering if these piosonous thoughts that have been so subtly implanted are combatible to any expediant result or if they must die out like a really bad cold. It seems to me that America in the next 20- 25 years will completely reset in terms of social demographics. How do you all think this will impact racism?
If anyone feels compeled to respond and I hope you all do please bear in mind that I am more interested in your take on the future of racism and not what you think about my personal beliefs. Please let the search for meaningful truth guide your response and not your REACTION to me. Thank you.
Posted by z.perry on Mar 26, 2006 at 12:11 PM
I see that happening here in france as the young going to school together do are naturally race-blind. 11 national origins in my daughter’s class of 21 ! But their older brothers and sisters have a harder time getting a job than their white schoolfriends. So racism still exists here, and even the teenagers know inside it will be tougher for them. Here it is not PTSS, apart from the caribbeans, it’s colour. They come from bangladesh, ceylon, and 9 african countries, so were never slaves.
The same “poisonous ideas” were instilled in me 50years ago, and I have managed to mostly dispose of them by some thought and lots of living. I never was given the extreme version in my family, but it was pervasive. When I saw the extreme around me, I hated it.
These threads can be very therapeutic, but it is only by doing your own thinking and heart-searching, and reading and research, that you will evolve yourself !
You said “more or less” race-blind , which is a key. Social class, culture, may well be more important than skin colour .
Leaving aside personal psychological hangups, my opinion as to the future of racism in America is a question of how you define the present.
It’s mixed. Quite good integration here and there; OK. BUT 2million black men in prison out of 2.3million ? Katrina victims, mostly black, disowned by the Federal government ?
Unfortunately your idea that the old generation dying out will arrange things doesn’t wash. Tina1 and bigmomma might be old KKK nazi farts, but they could well be young ones !
Posted by frog on Mar 27, 2006 at 5:31 PM
Though I’m bummed to think about it, and intend to help erode it wherever I can, I fear the future of racism in America will include its increase and intensification, at least for a few generations to come. Unfortunately, racial identity (or really, racial exclusion) seems too difficult a concept to let go of in a society that has color-coded people for hundreds of years. It will become worse before it gets better, in large part because of (a prediction) the continued widening of the gap between haves and have-nots, which in America also correlates with skin hue to a great extent, as is obvious.
Posted by Kuya on Mar 28, 2006 at 6:37 PM
Yes….I have not read the book, but heard an interview with the author on WPFW.FM ...... I would like to thank the author for her hard work and encourage her to continue in the process of freedon from the pedagogy of oppression….....hotepu
Posted by Redhorse on May 19, 2006 at 8:24 PM
i look forward to reading this book i have read much about it
i would like Black people globally who are still in slavery including the american jail/prison/judicial system
where the 14th amendment allows for involuntary servitude under the condition that one is ‘duly convicted’ of a crime clearly allows slavery to flourish in this stolen land which has been under martial law for centuries and recently has had the decency to let the masses of white folk know they too are under constant suspicion…
Slavery is a thousands of years old system of taking people as prisoners of war and forcing them to serve in any manner the the hostage taker can think up and carry out.
The trauma of slavery is not post but continues today
any Black person who has been thru the judicial educational criminal economic system of this nation or any other white nation can tell you slavery aint over….
perhaps others can come together with a solution to this problem of white supremacy which i agree with Dr. Frances Welsing (blackconsciuosness.com) is the result of white peoples
subconscious fear of genetic annihiliation through sexual reproduction due to their low amounts of melanin and the rest of the world’s people having higher amounts of melanin
We often have discussions amongst Black folks as to why whites did and do what they do regarding Black people.. it is my theory once again that their actions against Black people are initiated by their lack of significant amounts of melanin and Black people’s large amounts of melanin
as history has shown during the reign of Kmt (Egypt) and Moorish Spain Black people intermixed with white people mainly white women consentually and of course 99 percent of the time the result was a colorful Black baby girl/boy
now the god /creator of the universe created Black people with this genetic weapon in my theory to oppose white people specifically who are out of balance with universal law and seem to not know of its existence much less care if it is does causing non stop genocidal wars across the planet Earth and soon to spread into the far reaches of the galaxy.
Black people need to overstand they should not conform to white supremacy’s inferior expectation of Black people in all areas of people activity but subcumb to the reality of their divinity and resurrect our Black wolrd
Posted by nubadal on May 8, 2007 at 5:29 PM
I just attended a keynote given by the author of this book, and I cannot wait to read the book. I found it such a huge relief to hear Dr. DeGruy-Leary speak in unapologetic tones about the fact that this nation owes its success to slaves, that they built this country. I have been uncomfortable discussing slavery my entire life, but never able to put my finger on “why”. I suspect that part of my hesitation was the fact that I knew, somewhere inside my pysche, that the way slavery was taught and discussed in my classrooms and home was wrong. Hearing Dr. DeGruy-Leary speak of slaves as beautiful people who were resilent survivors of henious crimes felt honest. For me, hearing the discussion in truthful tones (as opposed to my childhood textbook rhetoric) is enabling me to begin an honest exploration of my part in the racist systems that exist today.
I do not want to underestimate the power of a positive attitude; Frankel was amazing but attitude did not save millions of other Jewish people. To minimize the complex topic of racism by telling people that the reason they are not succeeding is due to their attitude feels like blaming the victim. I look at the beautiful array of enthusiastic children in my neighborhood, and you cannot tell me that only the enthusiatic white children have good attitudes!
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BEHIND EVERY DARK CLOUD THERE IS A SILVERLINING
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TAKE BACK THE RAINBOW FOLKS
KUNTA GAYO KINTE/KENTE GOD IS PLEASED TO RESTORE UNTO US THAT WHICH WAS TAKEN AWAY
WE ARE A STOLEN PEOPLE DO NOT PAY THIEVES TO CHANGE OUR NAMES TO MAKE OFFICIAL OUR GOD-GIVEN NAMES
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WHY DO WE GLADLY WEAR THE WHITE MANS NAME AND HIS SYSTEM OF WS, WR, WD AS A CRUTCH WITHOUT QUESTION AND BUY EVERYTHING THEY ALL SELL AND EVERYTHING MADE IN CHINA…ASK GOD TO DELIVER US FROM THE TASTE OF EVERY OTHER CULTURE AND EVERYTHING NOT LIKE OUR GOD=GIVEN ESTABLISHMENTS AND GIVE US BACK OUR SPIRIT OF ORIGINAL CREATION-THE AFRICAN VILLAGE, IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD. IT TAKES AN AFRICAN VILLAGE TO RAISE AN AFRICAN CHILD AFRICAN STYLE
LIKE MY MOTHER SAID, “IF YOU CANNOT WORK AND TALK THEN SHUT UP AND GET TO WORK”...THANKS MOM, I LOVE YOU MOM AND MISS YOU MOM!. I KNOW YOU ARE AT PEACE FROM THIS OLD TROUBLESOME WORLD, SEE YOU WHEN WE ARE DONE FIGHTING THIS GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH AND WE TOO ARE DONE WITH THE TROUBLES OF THIS WORLD.
REVEALTION 18:4 GENISIS 15:13 ACTS 2, ACTS 4, ACTS 7, ACTS 17 ACTS 18:9 DEUTERONOMY 17:14-20 DEUTERONOMY 14:2 DEUTERONOMY 16:16 JEREMIAH 17:14-25
“RECEIVE JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND RECEIVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST, THE POWER OF GOD UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS AND…STUDY THE WORD OF GOD TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD…FAMILIES AFTER GOD’S OWN HEART…FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE FORGAVE…”
THE WHITE MAN IS NOT GOD AND NEITHER IS ‘HIS MONEY’?... REMEMBER AND NEVER FORGET, THE EARTH IS THE LORDS AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF… IT IS CLEAR AS THE BIBLE SPEAKS ABOUT THAT “A PEOPLE WHO HATE US RULE OVER US”
BEHIND EVERY DARK CLOUD THERE IS A SILVERLINING
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Posted by citizen477 on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM
You are absolutely right. I believe every literate black man, woman and preteen should read this book…it provides a footing,strong ground to stand on and an understanding into our basic psychology, racial family dynamics.
Posted by saso on Jul 8, 2012 at 11:18 AM
this is insanity?
ive never seen a disorder that is characterized by memories that aren’t even YOUR OWN
this is a new low for victimhood
and the most pathetic piece of pseudo afrocentric science i have ever seen
whats africa’s excuse?
post traumatic white man syndrome?
after this im completely done sugarcoating shit for THESE PEOPLE
i shouldn’t even call her a person.
people don’t make up lies like this then try to write books about it and then try to create a new mental disorder that’s only diagnoses is the color of your skin.
this is quite possible the most insane piece of trash i have ever seen. What has become of psychology. we used to have freud and jung
now we get black people playing doctor and pretending slavery from 200 years ago could mentally effect them to this day.
how did she inherit the memories?
did it have something to do with magic? or voodoo?
this is the sickest thing i have ever seen and just another pathetic attempt to get one over on whitey
thank god we have humble people like natives and hawaiians
we don’t hear this crap from them
because they are better than that
This woman must have an inferiority complex the size of everest. She is literally trying to excuse the behavior of her race through psychology. Except one thing. if a white person were to write a book about afrocentrics and their delusional breakdowns then it would be racist.
what has happened to our once great society
we have been reduced to a bunch of dumb racists(well not everyone is a DUMB racist)
it’s too bad the card is losing steam
it seems like no matter how much we can possibly give these people
it will never be enough
lincoln was right
the obvious answer would be to send them back to africa
then someoen else said we need to set up chinese colonies in africa
then the place would be ruled over with an iron fist by order loving chinese
then we would never have to see disgraces to the human sciences like this
just another extortion method.
post tramautic race disorder should be real- one who is so insecure about their race they exhibit delusional nonsensical theories related to the failures and shortcomings of themselves and the members of their race. the disorder can get so bad the person will have boughts of recurring “slave dreams” they include scenes from the fake movie roots
famous people who had this disorder
and now congratulations JOY LEARY
that sound like an actual disorder
not this made up pseudo-scientific horseshit
there isn’t a slave alive
so why do we hear about slavery
jews had a holocaus
why are they on top the world?
there is no exuse for this behavior
im surprised academia has slipped sooooo far as too alow this trash to be pased and then become a published writer on psychology
i would LOOOOVE to hear her theories
they are probably as nonsensical as he book title.
a new way of raising the bard of victim hood.
i want to show this to my soldier buddy
so he can actually laugh for once
these “people” sicken me
if they can be considered human
humans admit fault and defeat
this one seems to think there is an external reason for every failure
spurred on by liberal proffessors all over the quack science world joy has received the affirmative action nobel prize for achievement in the fields of PSEUDO SCIENCE
Posted by sean on Jul 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM
yea so they can continue to blame whitey for their failure and continue on the slow path of mediocrity and repiration seeking victimhood
you know what your not even people in my eyes anymore after this
the jews had a holocaust
now they are on top of the world
SLAVERY IS OVER STOP FUCKING CRYING
im a native hawaiian for fuck sake
when do we cry as much you do
your quite possibly the biggest racial crybabies on earth
you don’t deserve the life you were given because you just waste it on blame and bitterness
and worst of all
YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF RACISTS
how racist can one be?
you believe that you have a special mental disorder brought on by slavery and only people that share your race can have this disorder
YOUR SICK IN THE HEAD
YOU NEED REAL FUCKING HELP NOT THIS PSEUDO SCIENCE
Posted by papa shango on Jul 22, 2012 at 11:09 PM
btw im telling my family in hawaii about this they are going to get one huge kick out of it aswell
you see natives weren’t just miscegenated killed and had all their land stolen
they were actually degraded into a form of race that shouldn’t even be considered a race
they are just a hodgepodge of nothing that adds up to hawaiian anymore
your sick if you think this can EFFECT YOU
ive never seen people who act this way you all should be ashamed of yourselves
anyone who picks up this book should take their head and slam it against a wall as hard as they can
they might actually learn something for once
instead of new ways to get one over on white people
Posted by sean on Jul 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM
I believe what she means is after 265 years (slavery) of opperant conditioning or modification of voluntary behavior that most black people today have barriers of thinking built into them by there parents and ancestors that america also helps perpetuate into them through media , stereotypes and racism is a problem holding african americans back today.
Posted by malik on Aug 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM
You act so intelligent but simply you deny the theory of learned helplessness or the self full-filling prophecy or even operant conditioning and classical conditioning. You deny that tragic events done to people over generations will have absolutely no affect on future generations now that my friend is absurd.and last but not least my heart goes out to all Jewish people for there loss in the holocaust but slavery went on for 265 years that could be anywhere from 5-10 generations.To be treated as lower than a dog for 5-10 generations wont have any affect on how your people view themselves and others that makes no logical sense.
Posted by malik on Aug 29, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Lots to think about, still lots to do about it, work together and we (the intelligent) shall overcome.
Posted by Jenny Laws-mills on Aug 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM
Are you serious how racist can YOU be? this Country commited genocide and built it’s economy on slavery!!! committed mass genocide in Africa, stole our resources and possessions.There’s no nice way to say that slavery created America’s wealth and the fact that the only reason it has the growth it has today is because of the forced labour and oppression of black people.
It’s very funny, when you see people like you arguing through your teeth to defend something and say ridiculous things to prove a point but really you have been miss imformed, your race did not even exsist first!. You have no idea what we have been through!!! Slavery created the USA. they are still spending slave dollars today. The south made money and economic wealth off of slavery. YOu wouldnt even exsist if it wasnt for us. Laws and policies today still hinder us African Americans ever since we were enslaved ..We were bought into this system as slaves which threatened and destroyed African value system.since we got here. Please get your facts straight
Posted by Brittni Lothlen on Sep 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Your reasons for your closed-minded views on the subject is surely due to your lack of knowledge, in general, it seems. Not only should you try reading this book, you should read more often. Judging by your argument, it doesn’t seem that you’d get to far, mentally, regardless.
Posted by Nunk on Oct 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM
LMFAO You sound like an absolute simpleton! You are actually denying knowledge which is the highest-quality form of self-destruction. At least these “unhuman” people (oxymoron) picked up this book and sought for their self-redemption. As a “sick human”, I officially diagnose you as such. By the way, if you read the book, Joy includes personal experiences which correlates with the topic. And no, it didn’t come to her through magic or voodoo, it came purely and undoubtedly from the minds and through the mouths of evil people just like you. People of your sort fail to have the slightest understanding of the mind, and I believe that you are twisted in your own.
Posted by Nunk on Oct 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM
This is one of the best articles I have read on Slave Syndrome, but apparently it never affects conservative coloured people, or first generation Americans of our time. Only liberal thinking Americans, desendants of slaves.
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome; Racism erodes our very humanity.
Posted by Arturo Hassan on Oct 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM
YOU represent the same old denial bull shit because you and those like you cannot face the tragedy of the legacy of Chattel Slavery. You want to forget it and not face the horrific evil and full terrorism of YOUR MONSTROUS RACIST LEGACY. You can say all you want but you and any of those with you are Not going to STOP THIS TRAIN, SO GET THE “F” OFF. Dr. Joy is already renowned, All that rhetoric you just said was the natural response from an dominant oppressor.
Posted by roscoe Jones on Dec 9, 2012 at 7:06 AM
People need to move on. SLAVERY is over. I am a descendant of white slaves. What disorder do I suffer from? Racism is a learned behavior. It can end. All it takes is for ALL of us to teach our children better and to not let people like this woman and the media or the government keep feeding us this crap.
Posted by firstname.lastname@example.org on Dec 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM
I believe the use in this case would be “you’re”
You have no right to call others stupid or dumb when you yourself are not literate
Posted by Alex on Feb 26, 2013 at 4:27 PM
The same way we as blacks carrie the pain of our people. Whites carrie the same mentality of their people and this is why the ones that’s not afraid to speak out and tell black people to get over it do without thinking. How would you feel if your mother and father could only share stories about your great grandparents being slaves and families hung for foolish reasons. It’s our history!!! No white person who is truly sorry for their families actions who ever tell a black person to get over it. So now do you believe how personalities,emotions mental illness can be down to your baby-No! You have to be black to understand. We are a special kind of people-choosen ones. No disrespect giving none taking.
Posted by Charlotte on Mar 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM
What are you talking about? You are very ignorant. Dr. Leary is teaching us that we are today traumatized because of our ancestors’ struggle. Even though you are white, doesn’t mean you have to be ignorant about your history.
Posted by Chudi on May 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM
The fact that she is white still gives her an inherent edge in life, because racism is based upon sustaining white privilege status. She is a part of that denial factor being discussed.
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Posted by Kenneth on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Every race, every lineage of every people group in the planet were slaves at one time or another. The difference is the ‘Afro-Americans’ enjoy using it as a reason to explain away their ignorant behavior and desire for government cheese.
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Posted by DERPADERPA on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM
You the black man sits typing at a machine developed BY
A WHITE MAN
That runs on ELECTRICITY developed BY A WHITE MAN.
And sending that text over a network developed by a white man.
If white people ever make the real collective decsion to once and for all cut blacks off the government tit you will see something you have not had to for a very long time.
Posted by DERPADERPA on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM
“we are today traumatized because of our ancestors’ struggle”
Here, let me help you fix that. Dr. Leary is handing you yet another excuse for bad performance and behavior after more than 50 years of chances, head starts, lowered standards and expectations. It’ll make him famous and do nothing positive for you.
Posted by BobQSoss on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM
“this Country commited genocide and built it’s economy on slavery”
YOU are benefitting from the genocide of the American Indian… YOU ready to pay THEM reparations?
Romans built their economy on the enslavement of Europe twenty five hundred years ago. Do the Italians owe other Europeans reparations? I don’t think so, and neither does anyone else on the continent.
Until you stop behaving like the children of the world and develop a work ethic, you’ll stay at the bottom.
Posted by BobQSoss on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Wow. What a bunch of undignified, self-pitying, childish crybabies. Sniveling over something that ended, what, a hundred and eighty years ago for people long dead?
Here’s their real problem: Too little brain power and too much aggression-driving hormones.
If their neighborhoods are strewn with trash, have houses unpainted and unrepaired; if fist-fighting in the street is everyday activity; if stealing and lying and ambushing each other is so common they see it as normality, who do they blame when one of ‘em kills another? Themselves? No, it’s Whitey’s fault, of course.
Posted by BobQSoss on Oct 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM
This is pathetic and disgusting whiny drivel from a population that hasn’t been enslaved in HUNDREDS of years. Racism is not slavery, and in this day and age is mostly an imaginary offense with this demographic. How about the REAL CURRENT slavery going on? Children sold as sex toys and raped constantly by groups of strangers, a TRUE HORROR, and these whiny assholes can’t shut up about something even their great-grandparents didn’t go through? The sick part is, they don’t even ACKNOWLEDGE that there is current slavery, and as partly described a sentence ago, it is MUCH MUCH WORSE. I bet that this “condition” ONLY applies to them and their entitled crowd, kinda like hate crime laws. Sick of “Black Americans” and their BULLSHIT pathologies; how about we address their REAL pathologies, like their disproportionate committing of violent crimes and their
Posted by Gypsy Fire on Oct 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM
incessent troubles behaving like real civilians in public? (I must’ve been so pissed off that I sent the message without finishing it—that is all)
Posted by Gypsy Fire on Oct 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Slavery has been over for 148 years. Blacks don’t educate themselves. Blacks don’t strive to improve themselves. THEN they blame their situation on slavery. It is to laugh.
Posted by blutopluto on Oct 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Thank you, Kenneth.
We should have picked our own cotton…they weren’t even good slaves.
Posted by Macman1138 on Oct 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Wow, I bet those endorsements sold an extra three books.
Posted by Macman1138 on Oct 21, 2013 at 4:25 PM
Slavery is having to get up at 5 am and go to my job where blacks are THE LAZIEST people I have ever worked around.
Slavery is watching the black single mom of three bastards unload 1000.00 worth of groceries every month which was paid for by my tax dollars.
Slavery is watching every company bend over backwards to try and put as many black people in every commercial just in case they missed their target audience to market to them now that they have new welfare wealth and their unqualified for govt jobs.
Slavery is watching the city of detroit fall due to the policies proven a failure by black run america.
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Slavery still exists in many countries. With a large portion of those countries still being African. Its Africans selling other Africans, just like it was 100’s of years ago. They are their own worst enemy. I don’t foresee this ever changing.
It beez dey culcha knomesayin?
Posted by Mo Gibs on Oct 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Jesus christ you should patent that statement never heard anything put more to the point!
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 22, 2013 at 5:23 AM
again another excellent statement!
And very true!
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 22, 2013 at 5:24 AM
Living around black people erodes my humanity I am constantly being exposed to them and being forced to support the welfare plantation with my tax dollars.
Didn’t we fight a war over being taxed without representation to support the king and queen of england ??
Welfare and Overseas Monarchy what is the difference were paying to destroy our own country.
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 22, 2013 at 5:26 AM
Your 100 % correct some black has learned how to play the negro lottery game and wants to perpetuate this shit another 100 years more free gibs!
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 AM
Blah Blah Blah BOO HOO HOO
Sounds about the same as what you just typed.
Posted by I Forgot to Wipe When I pooped on Oct 22, 2013 at 5:29 AM
I worked 70 hours last week does that make me a slave if so I am a slave owner and operator.
Fuck Black People and Their Constant Pissing and Moaning.
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Posted by Argent Furor on Oct 22, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Actually if that were true then African nations where blacks have been in control the entire time and have never been slaves should be just like other countries - especially with all the resources they have.
Oops! Looks like all those nations are absolute hellholes that make Detroit look like a fancy vacation spot in comparison.
Blacks are simply a sub-human CANCER to civilization that needs to be “cured” along with all their white-enablers.
Posted by Konrad_K_Kay on Oct 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM
More boonery from a jiggaboo shetwat that would be baking biscuits in my kitchen if it were the good ol’ days. God, I wish it were said days; actually, I wish it were 1750 so I could do something to halt the further importation of these wretched niggermonkeys, while shipping the others back to Apefrika and doing something to coherce my ancestors to pick their own damned cotton. We’d not have the NAPA (North American Pavement Ape) problem we do today. However, we do, so let me put it this way: Niggers, if you don’t like it here, go back to Africa and see how you like it THERE. Point blank, the best thing that ever happened or could happen to you junglebunnies is my/our ancestors bringing you here. If they hadn’t, you’d still be living in straw huts with mud floors, eating flies for breakfast, lunch, dinner and desert while stepping in cow patties barefoot, spearing your next door neighbor because it’s from a different boonga tribe. Fuck all of these welfare hungry, handout-demanding mooncrickets.
Posted by Jiggaboo Jones on Oct 26, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Good lord, KID, did you go to school when you were supposed to? Are you NOT aware that human history, NOT JUST WHITES, has been dictated by the microcosm of “Only the strong survive,” thus, in other words, to the victor goes the spoils. If whites weren’t the dominant, more advanced, intelligent species, we wouldn’t have won the wars we fought, taken control of and (FYI further enhanced) the land which my ancestors, of whom I am extremely proud and to whom I am eternally grateful, fought for and won. Get real, kid. Or are you simply a liberal “adult” nutjob who ever earned anything for herself, aside from what she sucked off of mommy and daddy’s teat? Every race and every ethnicity has been enslaved at some point and time; the only reason it’s not as frequent/common for whites is, well, quite clearly and frankly, we’re the dominant bipedal hominid on this planet, PERIOD. If you don’t like that, tough shit, deal with it, get rid of your poor liberal white girl guilt or go to Africa and do some charity work. See how long it takes until you’re raped then murdered. Seriously, go, be my guest, kid.
Posted by Jiggaboo Jones on Oct 26, 2013 at 7:36 AM
Oh, and again, nigger girl, they aren’t spending slave money today. FYI, your ancestors were bought fair and square from other niggermonkeys on the west coast of Africa who defeated your subhuman ancestors in battle. They then sold them to MINE, for no more than a few shiny trinkets, maybe a couple out of date muskets at the most. It’s far from my fault yours were the least of the least on this planet. Look at Africa; if we came from you, then why aren’t you better, more advanced and living better lives than us? Hmmm, because you’re wrong? Oh that’s it, exactly. Humans, as in whites, Asians, Latinos, everyone but niggers, that is, created fire CA 250,000 years ago; niggers, 40,000 years ago. Niggers never invented the wheel, let alone anything of any value to our modern society. Look anywhere on the planet, from African nations of recent formation, to the continent itself, to US cities like Detroit and Chicago: All you see if failure when the Niggers are left to run anything; never in the history of human civilization has the nigger created a lasting, prosperous society, a creative culture who’s contributions advanced humanity etc. Keep pointing to George Washington Carver and the one or two others, then keep pointing at thin air. The fact of the matter is you and your types are subhuman, simian, upright beasts with skulls on average of 2-3 mm thicker than humans, subsequently resulting in a cranial capacity 250-300 mm less, the end result being smaller brains and lower IQs, usually in the 75 range, approximately -15 points that of an average human, and, on their scale, borderline retarded. You are worthless, and have been since the day mechanical farm equipment was created. Now, go back to yo muddaland, Apefrika, and fester in the filth that your “poor” ancestors would’ve been and that you would’ve been born in had mine not brought them here. And if you don’t like it there, simply go to hell because you will NOT be welcome here anymore, (FAR LESS FOR THAT MATTER) than you ever were!
Posted by Jiggaboo Jones on Oct 26, 2013 at 7:44 AM
“Leary suggests that African Americans (and other people of color) can ill afford to wait for the dominant culture to realize the qualitative benefits of undoing racism”
If the effects of slavery is the topic of the day, why then is there a sudden grouping of “all colored people”? This just seems irresponsible… and in itself racist- can someone please pick up a history book and read about ancient civilizations? How was Egypt built? How was Rome built? What did the Mongols demand as tribute from the Rus states? People, and they were white! This wasn’t some new idea the “white” people cooked up… Does that make it any less horrific? NO! People are innately horrific- but every does every descendent of slaves from the empires listed above deserve special treatment? Every single nationality that makes up America today has a dirty, enslaved past. What holds the black community down (Dr. Carson says it excellently) is the perpetuation of the “you done me wrong” mentality. People rarely pay attention to the fact that Europeans could not access more than the coast of Africa, and therefore it was OTHER Africans who captured and sold their spoils to the them. Does this make plantation owners any less responsible? Of course not, but it does go to show- you cant blame a race or put a broad blanket of “whites” on who was responsible. It is estimated that 12 million Africans were brought across the Atlantic to America… 5% of the total captured and enslaved by fellow Africans. Are entitlements and equal opportunity job requirements going to help racism? We’ll see now wont we.
Posted by Readabookplease. on Nov 24, 2013 at 4:27 PM
I’m sorry, but you are way misinformed! The south, post civil war was devastated to the point that any wealth that was amassed by slave owners was non existent! So your rant about America still spending slave dollars is just one of the many falsehoods held by the black community to make themselves feel important!As for the mass genocide and stealing of resources,tHE ONLY nation that ever ventured past the African coast line were the Dutch and the British! Blacks have a habit of revising history to support their agenda. The AfricanS were not the only .ENSLAVED PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! My own family were slaves four generations ago! And I’m white! Plus I have quite a few Jewish friends that had ancestors that were slaves. So, you are the one who should get your facts straight! Also, the first remains of man were found in Russia! not Africa! look it up!
Posted by vinnie12 on Feb 9, 2014 at 5:33 AM
In America, no white will ever experience prejudice in their entire life time. There is no racial second guessing whether their skin color hindered their promotion or from getting that bank loan. White priviledge is the most important disclosure in Dr. DeGruy’s message—it is this subliminal underlining mindset that triggers offensive and benevolent attitudes and actions. “I want because you can’t; and I give because you can’t” one, two sided coin mentality. I don’t think any non-white person can ever fully understand what prejudice is—How can a man ever experience pregnancy? He’ll never. There is a difference between actual experience and perceived perception; knowing versus concept. I’m not black but I felt, funny enough, freed after listening, reading, her materials because now I understand, and I hope the blacks understand, why they behaved the way they do. (Why would you want to wear the drop down-butt pants? Why would you denigrate your image and most importantly who created that style for the black community?) Prejudice will always exists—what animal does not prefer their own kind over another species! So what happens after understanding when prejudice is innate, which is built into every species? I think it is fine to be with one’s own kind so long as you don’t do another harm to the other and we keep in mind, “Do onto others as you [want] done onto you.”
Posted by 4truthsake on Mar 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM
So are the endless mentioning of the Holocaust in the United States which the Americans had nothing to do with! In the case of slavery, we had a direct hand in creating that immorality, thus such “redundant work” should be repeated as many times as necessary until people like you comes to term with it. So if you are Jewish—why is this topic “redundant” but the senseless redundancy of the Jewish suffering in Germany repeated endless here in the States isn’t? If you’re not Jewish then think before you speak!
Posted by 4truthsake on Mar 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM
You’re “pathetic!” “Racism is not slavery” then why didn’t they treat the whites the EXACT same why they did the blacks? “Children sold as sex toys” that happen during slavery. “Raped” that happen during slavery. Her material is focused on the black experience—not another group’s. When you speak about your “pathetic” life experience, clearly reviewed here, are you why aren’t you talking about the your relative’s, neighbor’s, people in the next state’s life stories too? Because focus topic is the order of a discussion. Sure the other thing happens, this one is focused on this one. How about we address the “disproportionate” percentage of white-collar-white people crimes who brought down the country’s economy?! How about the “disproportionate” whites committed to wars around the world? How about the “disproportionate” white-corps that screwing all colors of people in the United States and around the world?! How about you stop exposing the “disproportionate” amount of your stupidity! The REAL total sum of all crimes in the United States are “disproportionate” committed by whites! Moron!
Posted by 4truthsake on Mar 20, 2014 at 11:10 AM
People need to move on the Holocaust is over and it didn’t happen in the United States nor was it committed by the Americans! How many times did you scream this message to Americans?
Posted by 4truthsake on Mar 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM
I, for a long time, thought about trying to write this very book that Dr. Leary has written, already. To the reviewer: Ms.Talvi, I’m sold. I am going to Book Sellers today to buy a copy. I am desperate to find the antidote for PTSS. I want to try it out on myself, first. And, then; share with family, friends and neighbors. I wonder if Dr. Leary would be available for community presentation of her book?
Posted by MsMaia on Mar 23, 2014 at 12:14 PM