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Thursday Jan 5, 2006 12:43 pm

The Christians are creeping me out once again

By Jessica Clark
It's becoming a daily occurrence:


WASHINGTON, Jan. 5 /Christian Newswire/ -- The hearing room that will be used next week by the US Senate Judiciary Committee in the confirmation process for Judge Samuel A. Alito's nomination to the Supreme Court, was consecrated today by anointing oil and prayers offered by three ministers.

The Reverends Rob Schenck (pronounced SHANK), an Evangelical minister and president of the National Clergy Council, Patrick Mahoney, a Presbyterian and director of the Christian Defense Coalition and Grace Nwachukwu, a Pentecostal and officer with the Association of Female Clergy, conducted a 15-minute service outside the doors of Room 216, an austere chamber in the US Senate Hart Building frequently used for televised proceedings including recent confirmation hearings for Chief Justice John Roberts.

The service included Bible readings, prayers and a quote from America's first chief justice, John Jay, who wrote to a colleague in 1818, "The moral or natural law was given by the Sovereign of the universe to all mankind; with them it was co-eval, and with them it will be co-existent. Being founded by infinite wisdom and goodness on essential right, which never varies, it can require no amendment or alteration."
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Steve Meltzer 6 Jan 2006
9:54 am

Um…just so I can measure how freaked out to be…is prayerful annointing something that’s been going on all the while, and we just didn’t know about it, or is it a special new thing for extra good fundamentalist luck in these hearings?

Ted Snyder 7 Jan 2006
11:33 am

Guess what friends, the praying has been going on all along. It happened in civil rights battles and antiwar demonstrations. It happened at the SOA protests and anti-nuc actions. And it happens when church folk gather to restore funding for healthcare and education. The fact that it creeps your out says more about you than them.

Tim Christopher 7 Jan 2006
12:04 pm

Dey put de gris gris on your doorstep.

tom h 8 Jan 2006
3:54 pm

Why no mullahs or rabbis?

And I think Zoroastrians should get more exposure.

will b 8 Jan 2006
9:59 pm

Sude, if the Zoroastrians get more exposure I’m going to get creeped out.  Then again, Christians, especially evangelical ones, aren’t really much better.

will b 8 Jan 2006
10:00 pm

Dude*

dAVE 10 Jan 2006
2:43 pm

words can’t describe how excited i, for one, am that this country is finally taking the teachings of Jesus seriously.

now we can start to fix so many social wrongs with love & compassion.  we can make blessed peace, saving the world for our children & grandchildren to inhabit.

we can let Jesus’ Holy Spirit inspire us to do all we can for the sick, the poor, the downtrodden…oh, wait….they were just dumping some oil on some chairs…how silly….is that even from the new testement?...huh…oh well, nevermind…

ME 10 Jan 2006
8:40 pm

Thing is— only PEOPLE should be anointed, not objects.  Not even non-human lifeforms.

According to the Bible, that is.

...if that matters at all, over these clowns Will.
I, for one, would be very interested in what actual people are anointed prior to (or even during) the process.
Why do I get the feeling these people’s God will favor the Republicans?

Jesus lives, and dabbles in U.S. politics.  Hoo-ray!

Tim Christopher 11 Jan 2006
12:09 pm

Well, they “anoint” jeeps, don’t they?

http://www.check-six.com/lib/Jeep_Bless.htm
It’s all about the flock—and it’s all in the flocking. (pushing flock)

http://www.fourwheeler.com/brandpages/129_0409_bless/
“Creepy,” was former Atty. General, John Ashcroft. The very model of a of a modern Republican Major General.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4367019,00.html
When Ashcroft became a senator, he settled for being anointed with Crisco cooking oil (as suggested by his father), thus proving once and for all that; “A little dab (of whatever grade oil) will do ya.” Although in Melville’s time, only pure, unadulterated, whale oil would do for the anointing of kings.
Sometimes I wonder: is Leni Riefenstahl getting all this down?

KawValleyKid 11 Jan 2006
8:45 pm

I think they should use Cannabis oil Like Jesus did!
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html

Bart 13 Jan 2006
9:22 am

uhm, jesus teachings????

wtf

he didnt even exist how can he teach

fuck him and his fanclub

David in Canada 13 Jan 2006
4:39 pm

Jesus teaches me.

wileywitch 13 Jan 2006
8:37 pm

Shouldn’t they be using petroleum?

dAVE 15 Jan 2006
7:46 pm

David: me too:)

wileywitch: certainly!

Bart: don’t have a cow, man.

KVKid: Jesus was a long hair…

wileywitch 16 Jan 2006
3:24 pm

Hmmm. Did Jesus anointeth people or chairs? He had grape juice and saltines at the last supper—- I learned that in church.
Apparently, Aleto was crucified by democrats at his hearing. His wife did the Lamentations bit.
Suffering and persecution aren’t what they used to be, huh?

David in Canada 16 Jan 2006
4:57 pm

Actually, Jesus did not anoint anyone with oil.
Here is some information on the practise of anointing with oil.
As for Jesus having long hair. It depends on your definition of long . Probably no longer than shoulder length considering the historical and cultural norms of the time.
Here is some information about what Jesus may have looked like.

The 'other' Bart 20 Jan 2006
11:42 pm

Like it or not, there is a good amount of evidence for the life and death of Jesus. Denial is not your best argument. Neither is hate.

wileywitch 21 Jan 2006
5:59 pm

Is someone offering “proof”? I think not. Whether or not there is “evidence” for the existence of Christ and his crucifixion, that is not “evidence” that he is/was the messiah. That is a matter of faith. Faith doesn’t require “evidence”, and I have to wonder why so many “faithful” engage in argument about whether or not Jesus is “fact”.
I’d rather that people who don’t believe didn’t try to make hay over the existence of Christ, either, because it is no less a senseless argument, considering that no human can prove that Christ is/was the “the Son of God” even if they did “prove” his existence. God never shows up in court, but who needs a water-tight case in order to have faith? Isn’t faith what you have when there isn’t “proof”?

David in Canada 22 Jan 2006
1:13 pm

I have faith that

Christ dwells within my heart.
That is proof enough for me.

wileywitch 22 Jan 2006
6:43 pm

I trust that you understand the story of the Good Samaritan.

David in Canada 23 Jan 2006
11:18 am

Good Samaritan

Love God and Love your neighbour.
Who is your neighbour?

Everyone.
Good Samaritan - Alternate Endings

Major Major 28 Jan 2006
9:12 am

For those of you who believe in God, or don’t, we need to maintain some sense of social perspective on the subject.  God is dead.  He died on the cross two thousand years ago, but his memory lives on in the hearts and minds of those who personify his resurrection.  He died in defiance of the priests and magistrates who counselled their people to remain “reasonable” and submit to the blood-spattered authority of an empire which sought to enslave the captives it could not kill.  His invocation of the “kingdom of God” convinced the convicted that another world was not only possible, but necessary, not in some vague, indefinable future, but then and there.  Period.

David in Canada 28 Jan 2006
3:36 pm

Thanks Major Major. You put it very well.
For brevity’s sake I offer this well worn phrase:
God dies so that we may live.

David in Canada 28 Jan 2006
3:42 pm

Hmm ...
Maybe not so well worn after all. I did a search on God dies so that we may live and did not find any exact matches on the first few pages.

Tim Christopher 28 Jan 2006
5:56 pm

This thread is starting to creep me out.

Major Major 28 Jan 2006
9:00 pm

Contrary to popular misconception, Google is not God.  Google is Google.  There is no God, except in the hearts and minds, etc., which would appear to imply that God is state of mind located somewhere in the heart of Oklahoma, masquerading under the name of Bob Dobbs (Praise Bob…), a drill equipment salesman from Oklahoma City.
We’re all convicted, David, and there’s no one there, or then, to commute the sentence, here and now.  That’s the message of the gospel: learning to live our lives under the constant, conscious sentence of death.

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