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Wednesday Jan 12, 2005 1:33 pm
So Wrong, for So Long
Once again, folks, repeat: No WMDs in Iraq. The Boston Globe reports that the search for chemical and biological weapons in Iraq has "quietly concluded." House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi released a written statement that said:
A New York Times article, just released, reports: "Some administration officials have suggested that some arms might have been moved out of Iraq, perhaps to Syria." White House spokesman Scott McClellan apparently ruled this out, but it sounds like some officials want to keep their options open....
Read the press briefing with McClellan, and watch him dodge questions by resorting to platitudes like: "The President knows that by advancing freedom in a dangerous region, we are making the world a safer place."
Now that the search is finished, President Bush needs to explain to the American people why he was so wrong, for so long, about the reasons for war.
A New York Times article, just released, reports: "Some administration officials have suggested that some arms might have been moved out of Iraq, perhaps to Syria." White House spokesman Scott McClellan apparently ruled this out, but it sounds like some officials want to keep their options open....
Read the press briefing with McClellan, and watch him dodge questions by resorting to platitudes like: "The President knows that by advancing freedom in a dangerous region, we are making the world a safer place."
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Most thinking people knew this long ago. What took the media so long to finally report it?
Now is the time for the crimes against humanity trials and the Nuremburg style hangings that were given to the Nazis for the guilty.
Don’t expect any public outrage in this country. Most Americans can’t remember which remote to pick up when they want to watch FOX news, don’t know anything about the world outside our borders, and don’t want to. Just keep me safe and don’t ask me to use my brain, please. Constitution? Bill of Rights? Forget it, what time is “CSI” on?
If it were possible, i wish that the US could “clean up” all the (pre-war) Iraqs, Rwandas, Sudans, etc. **IF** it were possible to “police” the world and protect the weak from the strong, i would be for that.
The biggest quesion that remains is whether we will have helped Iraq or harmed it, in the long run. Clearly it is far too early to tell this.
But in the shorter run, we can guess at how many innocents have died as a result of this war (maybe 10,000 - 100,000). We can also guess at how many would have died if not for the war (about the same, maybe?). It seems about a wash to me. . .
But if the people dying now are dying for a reason - and MANY ARE (eg, the Iraqi police being gunned down by terrorists, the Iraqi politicians being targeted by terrorists, etc) then perhaps these deaths are not in vain. Perhaps they are dying for a better and freer Iraq. I sincerely hope they succeed (where was the hope for **anything** under Saddam?)!
We all have our own pov’s. After reading as much as i can, learning as much as i can, thinking about it as much as i can, this is my pov. Of course, others have their own unique pov’s.
“Now that the search is finished, President Bush needs to explain to the American people why he was so wrong, for so long, about the reasons for war.”
Yeah, don’t hold your breath on that one. If we get anything, it’ll be about how they went with the best intelligence they had at the time…the very same intelligence that Colin Powell referred to as “shit” when presenting it to the Security Council.
One thing’s for certain though, war can’t be undone, so we just have to hope for the best now. We owe it to the dead to learn from these mistakes.
My unique point of view is that over 1,300 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraquis (most women and children) have lost their lives because of a lie. That makes Bush and his Stupids war criminals. Try them, fry them.
Innocents die every day, here in America and abroad. Wrongful incarceration, inadequate educational systems, and the lack of health care result in a lingering death for many Americans.
What people don’t know is that pre-Gulf War, Iraq had the best education system in the Middle East. The secular government did not subject women to second class citizenry (as was the case case in SaudiArabia)
Was he (Saddam) a paranoid, tyrant? Yes, undoubtly. Did he do the bidding of the U.S. with regards to destabilizing Iran after the rise of the Ayatollah? Yes, and this is the very reason that Donald Rumsfeld (Reagan’s special envoy) ensured that Saddam’s regime had the chemical and biological weaponry.
Not that any here needed a history lesson. But if Saddam is tried for his part in the use of these weapons against the Kurds and Iranians, then his U.S. handlers should suffer as well.
Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency.
??? General Douglas MacArthur
This is amazing, when Slick Willy was getting his knob polished it was everyone’s business and news of it invaded our homes everynight along with leaving the tax payers a bill for the investigations. But we go to WAR sacrifice THOUSANDS of our own people along with TENS OF THOUSANDS of Iraqi innocents, and cost us BILLIONS of much needed dollars, and things are “quitely concluded”. Unreal. I don’t know if it is the impotence of the Democrats in office, the perversion of the American people, or both. Maybe if we made it a cartoon people will be more inclined to remember what happened…or better yet make it soap opera based. But folks don’t worry Dubya is going to have a no doubt a crack shot team to investigate why billions of dollars are spent each year to produce the wrong information about a powerless country.
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