chris 13 Dec 2004
11:35 am

Can we really expect this administration to champion civil rights? Come on. Not that they harbor racial prejudice. They harbor economic prejudice. Rememeber Jim Hightower’s great line about Bush, “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”
My biggest complaint about most Republicans and conservatives is they seem to think anyone who isn’t wealthy made the choice to be ‘blue’ collar or less. Many have forgotten they were given a hand up or access to the career ladder.
While I do believe it is still possiible in the U.S. for everyone to improve their life, we don’t all get the chance to ‘choose’ wealth and privilege.
So for the bulk of us civil rights matter. For those who have forged the ‘connections’ and ‘network’ to be elected as a federal legislator, the only civil right that matters is the right to raise money.

redstate 13 Dec 2004
3:26 pm

My biggest complaint about liberals is that they think that “minorities” are so disenfranchised that they need to have the benevolent hand of liberals to elevate them to citizen status. How ludicrous! The whole push about diversity is embarrassing. It is racist and unjust. Poor black folks can’t get a leg up without whitey helping them. It seems to me that most white folks that push this agenda are rich white liberals who feel an enormous sense of guilt for being rich white liberals. Does the phrase “two wrongs don’t make a right” ring a bell with anyone? Bush for all his imperfections has elevated Blacks in his administration yet the true mean spiritedness of (some) liberals is vomit inducing. I guess dem Black folks is only good to the libs when they get elevate them and make them sing their tune. Amongst all other flaws of liberals hypocrisy is the most glaring and noticeable ones. America IS smart enough to figure that out.

Pat 13 Dec 2004
5:42 pm

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My biggest complaint about liberals is that they think that ???minorities??? are so disenfranchised that they need to have the benevolent hand of liberals to elevate them to citizen status. How ludicrous!

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Oh PUH-LEEZE!!! That’s the oldest and dumbest justification for racism and sexism in the book. They are disenfranchised, dipshit.

redstate 14 Dec 2004
4:45 am

oh forgive my very politically incorrect response. You on the left must have victims in order to justify you inner feeling of benovolence toward the poor downtrodden people. No you give me a break and quit the feminazi crap and victimization crap and get real. Liberals are the cause of the problem not the cure. You perpetuate this garbage so you all can make yourselves look like the heroes that you are not. You stay empowered in your feeble closed little minds by using hate to foster hate against those you don’t agree . Typical liberal hypocrisy and ignorance…take that dipshit-

Pat 14 Dec 2004
6:31 am

I’m not the one whining, fool. You do nothing but whine all over these message boards. “Feminazi”—can’t stop quoting the head oinker/drug addict, huh?

theProblem 14 Dec 2004
7:50 am

redstate - you have angered Pat by stating the obvious. Note her response - she called you names (racist, sexist, dipship, etc). This is a very typical response (on both the right and left) when rational arguments fail.

redstate 14 Dec 2004
9:09 am

that’s ok if she attacks me. she did so on another forum here too and I just consider the source. I only get agressive when those on the left distract the gist of the message by going off on some juvenile politically correct temper tantrum. They want to control the whole idea by being able to control the language itself. That is their MO in most things anybody that does not agree with them or speak like them are racist or sexist- or homophobic. It is my fault for even responding to her.

Pat 14 Dec 2004
9:25 pm

Then don’t respond. The right wingers name call and spew ugliness, then whine about it when called to task.

redstate 15 Dec 2004
5:37 am

Pat- I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Peace on Earth.

redstate 15 Dec 2004
1:52 pm

I would like to finally comment on this issue of the civil rights commission. I hope the conservatives take this bloated very selective bureaucracy and abolish it. I say that after going to the civil rights commission website. I see only select “groups and problems mentioned as to be able to petion for redress. This is wrong. All people should be covered by this commission and not just a select few whom the government has labeled a protected class. This commission unless it can cover every American should like all other tax wasting bureaurocracies should be dissolved abd the tax money used ( or returned to the citizens) for much more inclusive goals. I always hear how liberals are soooo offended by something well I as an American citizen are offended by this selectivity.

Merlin 16 Dec 2004
5:44 pm

Redstate, you are simply a troll and nothing more. I too have seen your responses on other boards and they are always of the same kind. You don’t want to “discuss” any issue, rather just attempt to stir up the folks on what ever board you are on.
(My advise to folks regarding redstate’s comments, is to not get suckered into “discussing” with him at all. That is what he wants. He deserves to be ignored.)
Oh, and Redstate “I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Peace on Earth. ”

Cheryl Johnson 19 Dec 2004
2:34 pm

I found it quite stange that the conservatives want to get rid of the civil rights commission because they deemed it as holding us back. well its not the civil rights commission fault what is holding back black america and/or the poor the policies that this country has made. we dont consider everything before we start to debate. You have a president who gave the biggest tax break to the top 1% welathy and you have over 45 million people wothout health insuarnce. You have a president who started in illegal war and he is cutting financial aid for pell grants for the poor. We cant even get our votes counted and treated with the respect that we as americans deserve but people like redstate is apart of the problem. No liberals are not holding us back they speak for the poor, disenfranchised, and for all the wrongs that corporate america is doing. its the republicans that dont care unless you have money or a corporate entity. so for people like red they want to get rid of it not because they think that will help raise blacks to a higher level it will furthur put us behind because who would then make sure the playing field is fair-certainly not a republican who used rice and powell as tokens.  as long as there are wrong doings we have to have some sort of representation.

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