SHARE PAYROLL TAXES PAID
Remove tax cut for top 2% is tax increase
Remove loophole is not???
Posted by Clarence Swinney on Nov 13, 2012 at 4:42 PM
why is it now that the $800 billion stimulus is part of the budget baseline????? we don’t need more taxes - control the dang spending - that stimulus is now part of every year’s spending
Posted by jd on Nov 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM
His job is to loo this country for the benefit of his corporate masters. Boehner is damned good at that job.
Posted by northierthanthou on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:34 AM
Democrats won. That’s why John Boehner is still the Speaker of the House.
Posted by Don Surber on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:45 PM
“The Dems Won”
They didn’t win the house, goober. Get over it, the Republicans won the House.
Posted by asdf on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM
Note to Leo, look at the distribution of red vs blue counties across America. Only a very small area of the country is blue. The congress must represent their constituencies. The president will have to cave on both taxes and spending or be the president that brought the financial system to collapse.
Posted by Dan Wilson on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:48 PM
Nothing has changed, we still have trash in the White House and senate, but the house stands
Posted by Ronald W. Mann on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Worse yet… they win again if you allow them to take the country over the fiscal cliff… because then the Dems get what they really want: an end to ALL the Bush tax cuts!!!! Sadly, even this won’t be near enough to cover all of their entitlement commitments. So pleeeeze just give them what they are asking for and get out of the way. They are taking the nation to ruination and the last thing we need is for you to become a scapegoat.
Posted by tedpeters on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM
A UNION STOOGE wrote the article? No wonder its full of stupid comments and idiotic assumptions. The House maintained its “R” status. THAT"S where the financial stuff happens. get over it. Nothing has changed except the lower paid workers will have their hours reduced to 30 a week. Then THEY get to pay for their own Owe-bamaKAIR. I wonder if they know it will cost 7500 a year. They may have to sell their OwebamaFONEs.
The writer, like most liberals is incapable of the concept of cutting spending. Unions have forced politicians into this mindset for decades, and now unions are too expensive and destructive for businesses, and are being removed, or companies just go out of business (Like Hostess- say bye to Twinkies for the same reasons - UNIONS are too expensive)
Posted by Kosh94 on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM
This is really simple, just let all the tax cuts expire, no new cuts, nothing. No new legislation or anything. Everyone gets a tax increase,including the rich and everyone pays for all the benefits everyone wants to keep.
This is what the people voted for so do it.
Posted by TomMoore on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:52 PM
What a pile of crap. The Republicans won the House which is the only real way the people are represented. The presidency is archaic in its continued use of the Electoral College - this need to go, or become proportional in every state. Then it would be fair. California is a joke and only represents part of its people, not to mention it continues to send back the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer - two old dead crones. Obama DID NOT win a mandate of any kind. The “gimmy my stuff” folks put him in - those who don’t know what it is like to really work for a living. We are screwed for the next 4 years.
Posted by Robert on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:55 PM
You need to get a serious grip on reality, and on what the American people voted for, if you make the claims this article does about the 2012 elections.
Posted by Daniel on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Wake up Leo, Reps won more elections this cycle and last!
Posted by Bill Rambler on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Actually, Boehner & company are only defying half the people. The rest of America is behind anyone who can halt or limit the destruction of the economy. We’ll see how it plays out. Yup! Dems won. Just. What did they win? They won the ruined country they largely manufactured. Nothin’ to do now but make sure your investments are diversified. Buy what you need to survive, and stay away from large urban areas if possible. This next four years is going to leave a permanent scar.
Posted by mccarty42 on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM
The Republicans hold the House by a 35 seat margin, the 2nd largest since WWII if I’m not mistaken. 60% of all state governors are now Republican.
The headline “The Democrats won” does not present a complete picture.
The American people want economic growth and jobs. Every proposal put forth by both parties should face scrutiny in that light. How does raising taxes on investments (capital gains and dividends) and the 7 million Americans (the 2%) who make $200,000 facilitate economic growth and job creation?
How does retaining all the Bush tax cuts while eliminating deductions facilitate GDP expansion and reduce unemployment?
Those are the questions that need answered by the President, Harry Reid, and John Boehner.
Posted by thesafesurfer on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Let Obama have his way but let ALL the tax cuts go away and do not pass anything, this way Obama and the Dems can have everything they wanted and the country can see how there ideas sink the economy into a second recession. Screw em and the stupid people who voted for them….
Posted by TomMoore on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:03 PM
In less than a years time, Obama’s approval rating will be in the 30s and people will be clamoring for him to be out of office… just wait….
Posted by TomMoore on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM
He’s a Republican.. Principled.. His policy isn’t based on re-election.. And if it were, he was re-elected, so… He’s going to keep on doing what gets him elected or what his principles tell him. Why would he change again? Because the author wants him to?
Hello? Did this author even think about this topic?
Posted by LoveOfCountry on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Leo, the Dems didnt win. There are multiple elected branches of our government. Each have the right to be the voice for their constituency. The house of rep represents the people. They have a voice. Just as the President, and the Senate. No one branch is more important than the other. And i could debate you on the fact the House is the true voice of the people as they represent specific constituencies. You can ignore the Constitution in thinking that the government is to omnipotent at the Federal level. Im sorry, but i there is no “mandate”. Whatever that is. We are a Republic that allows the states to govern for the people. The Constitution insures there are checks and balances for when one party believes their is a mandate. Yes, there was an election. Yes one party “held” there branches of the government. And yes, one party held another branch. No change was asked of the people. 49% of our country want us to lead with other principle. 51% of our country want another direction. Its a continuation of the last 4 year. Which the last 2 years included moving one party out of the house of reps which created our current balance or gridlock.
Posted by John Vojtush on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:08 PM
It’s not what they voted for?
Didn’t you see the exit polls?
Posted by Mr Reality on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:09 PM
We don’t want the nation ruined… that doesn’t make sense? What are you talking about?
Just the tax breaks on the highest percent
Posted by Mr Reality on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM
If the EC went away, the GOP would get curbstomped every time, even worse than it just was.
Posted by Shuruppag on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM
It’s also not what Obama ran on. But don’t count on Republicans to know how to read.
Posted by Shuruppag on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM
If the Dems won, why does the GOP have a majority in Boehner’s house?
Posted by philmon cluebattingcage on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM
They lost fewer seats than they should have, but that’s about the best spin you can put on it.
Posted by Shuruppag on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM
And also… THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE in the blue districts outnumber those in the red.
Look at the “size” of the country not based on land area, but on population and you’ll see what I mean and the FALLACY of your argument :)
Posted by Mr Reality on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Of gerrymandered bumfuck hellholes, yes. But not of states.
Posted by Shuruppag on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM
The blue is where all the PEOPLE are, moron. Square miles can’t vote.
Posted by Shuruppag on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Ever notice how no one understand math anymore?
Take the president’s new mantra, I want $1.6 trillion over 10 years.
So, what’s the math look like on that?
Well, that’s $160 billion a year, in a country where you spend $1.1 trillion over revenue.
Your still way short. Think anyone notices? Naw, they’re waiting for their gas tanks to be filled and mortgages paid.
Posted by Ron on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Wake up Leo. Nancy Pelosi says, “We still have the gavel.” “Oh, I’m sorry we don’t have the gavel.” Nancy was right, after she was wrong. And you’re as nutty as she is.
Posted by fribble on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM
You can’t cut your way to prosperity. Tax reform won’t get it either. The 1950s the Republicans long for only happened because of the tax rates and salaries of the time. Don’t take my word for it. Look it up.
Also stop watching the Fear and Balanced. It was hilarious they had a “spin” article during the election when in fact the whole web page was spin. 100% complete and total spin.
Posted by ME on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Umm…Boehner is still the speaker and the Republicans still have the majority of the House…so no, the Dems did not win.
But I can see a dumbass union slut like yourself not understanding how the government works.
Posted by BarryBarry on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM
The EuroZone is now officially an recession… Following the exact same “austerity” measures OBama is pushing…
Austerity to the left means: More Taxes and More Spending:
However, it turns out that those blasting Europe’s experience with spending restraint omit some critical facts. Contrary to what you may have heard, spending cuts have largely been lacking in Europe’s economic crisis response. Instead, in most European nations, austerity has mostly taken the form of higher taxes. We shouldn’t be surprised Europe is struggling: when you raise taxes in a weak economy, it has a negative effect on investment and economic growth
Posted by lookout1 on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM
That doesn’t make any sense….If Obama was compromising, then it would get done. I agree, the Republicans aren’t either, but you can’t point just at them - it takes two to not compromise.
Posted by rondmcd on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Not that the Dems haven’t done the same thing themselves. Just look at New York, Illinois and Taxachusetts. If CA residents hadn’t passed the initiative to use an outside committee the Legislature in SacTown would have wiped out the Reps.
Posted by PATransplant on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Wake up, Leo, the REPUBLICANS WON Boehner’s House! AGAIN! The House has a mandate not to give in to the uncompromising Demagogues, led by the Demagogue in Chief. Get used to it!!!!
Posted by amy roth on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM
The Dems have essentially said they won’t consider cuts to any of their pet programs. So please define what compromise means?
Posted by PATransplant on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM
No, actually, gerrymandering was a wash this time around. The GOP did very well in NC, but the Dems stomped the GOp in AZ, CA, and IL. Most of what happened is essentially a continuation of districts that have been around a long time with minimal changes. And the GOP also picked up a few seats because of population changes—many red states picked up House seats while many blue states lost seats.
Posted by Mark A Abramson on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM
You would also note, that during the 1950’s…
60% of this Nation’s budget was spent on defense.
The math is fairly straight forward.
Daddy built bombs at the factory, took his paycheck, bought Mama a new Maytag.
Today that is reversed, 20% on defense and 60% on entitlements.
Think of defense expenditures as infrastructure,
it’ll come to you.
Posted by Ron on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Wrong, they control more states’ Governor mansions and legislatures. don’t let Obama’s blue states lead you to believe that those states are democrat - a huge chunk are not. The fact that a very, very small margin of people didn’t like Romney more than they didn’t like Obama does not mean they agree with the democrats.
Even in the Senate, they are scared….in two years 20 democrats are up, only 13 republicans. 6 of those 20 dems are in red states. If this economy doesn’t turn around, and quickly, the Republican’s will control the Senate in two years. Several of those 6 have already said they won’t vote for a tax increase. Forget the Republican House, Obama may not even be able to get the Democratic Senate.
Posted by rondmcd on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Wake up Gerard, 435 House seats were on the ballot on the same day as the Socialist. Guess who won? Your move, Kenyan…...
Posted by Greg Stewart on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Compromise? You mean like the President now demanding TWICE the tax increases he said he wanted before the election? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice…. and he did!
Posted by danbfas on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM
You guys are sooooo right! Who does Obama or the damn lib’s think they are. They only won the presidency and the Senate! Didn’t they hear Mittens & Ryan? They only won because because the damn blacks, latino’s, Asians, young kids, oh yeah, and white folks in all of Mittens home states….and in Wisconsin. They don’t have a mandate! Besides Texas and a few other states are going to break away from the union. They’ll show those damn lib’s! Oh yeah, and blame the voters Mittens not your strong campaign or your strong platform. Too bad you didn’t win, we were really looking Forward to your leadership. And how the hell did that damn community organizer win anyway? We were the ones with all the damn business experience and policy wonk (Ryan)! All of our internal polling told us we would win,and so did Rush, Noonan, Fox & Friends, Will, Brooks…WTF happened? Tat damn congressman in PA lied to us! He told us with our voter suppression I mean voter ID law Mittens would win! We don’t need to change our platform, we just need to prop up more I mean real conservative candidates. Talk more about abortions, welfare, transvaginal probes, more legitamate rape, and keep trying to pass more pro-life bills! Damn the voters they don’t know what they need, we need to keep educating them!
Posted by Nadhiyr on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:50 PM
I agree. Every Democrat bill that comes up should be passed. Let the President do whatever he wants. Republicans should just sit back and relax. Watch the walls come down!
Posted by danbfas on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Very strange column, isn’t it? Boehner is the Speaker of the House, leading his party to a majority again. He won his part of the pie.
Posted by tv22 on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:52 PM
The dems won Mr Gerard? Then why are you telling SPEAKER Boehner to wake up? Shouldn’t you be writing an article advising Speaker Pelosi? OOPS! That’s right….Obama won, but the dems lost the HOUSE AGAIN, didn’t they? Speaker Boehner knows which voters he needs to be responsive to, and those are the ones that gave him a Republican majority in the House, and the Speakership, again! Not some Union Leader thug trying to get his hands on more borrowed taxpayer dollars. And by the way condolences on that GLARING defeat for labor in MI. Its seems while MI voters were dumb enough to give Obama another chance, they weren’t dumb enough to open the state treasury and risk every business and job in MI to please thug labor.
Posted by valwayne on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM
The United Steelworkers union is a sponsor of “In These Times”, and ol’ Leo is Canadian! So glad he’s giving us his opinion of US politics.
Posted by danbfas on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Your math is off - it is reflecting of what Obama masterly got the American public to believe. He kept saying things like the top 1%, he used examples like loopholes for private jets, etc. Then, noted that the tax increase should be on those making $250,000 a year. First, the top 1%, of wage earners, is $350,000 a year and more. So, that math doesn’t work. Second, the truly wealthy in this country are not wage earners - they are trust fund folk and large business owners….those are the ones with private jets - not wage earners. Those folk don’t pay “income taxes” like the rest of us, it is taxed differently - Thus Romney’s effective rate of 14%.
All of Obama’s mixing and matching and smoken mirrors does not accomplish what he is telling you. Raising taxes on those at $250,000 will not get rid of private jets, will not increase Warren Buffet or Romney’s taxes. It will simple raise taxes and take more buying power out of the sluggish economy.
Posted by rondmcd on Nov 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Leo Gerard should be ashamed of this irresponsible bottom-feeding gutterball of an article, but we all know that union jackasses like Leo have no shame nor decency.
Posted by Chas Martel on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM
You keep saying that, but the gerrymandering is done at the state level, by the party in control of that state…so, those that put republicans in charge, got more republicans. Those that put democrats in charge, got more democrats. It did not alter the net election results.
Posted by rondmcd on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM
I love the way liberals mock conservative economic policy. if you want to see the results of Democrat policy look at California and Illinois. Just because you win an election doesn’t mean the fundamentals of economics have changed. Besides, Republicans won the house.
Posted by T.J. on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Dems won more house votes than GOP. 49 new Dem Reps. The president won. Dems picked up seats in the senate. GOP knows it’s going down the tubes: electoral college #s, and demographics not in its favor. Love your caps; they makes you sound, in a kind of bitter defeated way, energized.
Posted by infantofmontpelier on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:07 PM
You don’t think that the left wants an end to Capitalism?
Posted by Ted Peters on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Democrats did win. Let them have their way. Don’t block anything they do. Then when America’s getting ready to go off the cliff, the dems won’t be able to blame anyone. You know what will happen then? The lefty suck-ups in the media will blame the Republicans for not stopping the dems.
Posted by Roxanna Ellington Moser on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:18 PM
I believe that Dan was referring to counties, not states. The Congress does represent the views of the majority of the people in the country. However, Dan may be wrong about the President caving in order to avoid a financial collapse… since that may actually be his goal. I mean, how else can we move on to a utopian world with the One as perpetual Emperor?
Posted by Ted Peters on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:20 PM
The Bush cuts are expiring because the REPUBLICAN house voted a year ago to let that happen, so all the arguments here about which side “won” the election are meaningless. As of January 1, 2013 the taxes will go up unless the Republican house agrees to a cut for the middle class. There will NOT be another cut for the rich-that was decided by Obama’s re-election. If the Republicans insist on dragging down the middle class out of spite because the cuts for the rich can’t be re-newed, that’s in their power, but the American people will NOT forget.
Posted by dyinglikeflies on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM
The latest liberal invention: A Democrat won the presidency; therefore, Republican members of Congress must no longer represent their constituents but must instead rubber stamp the president’s agenda.
Funny, I don’t remember hearing that argument directed toward Democrats when George W. Bush was elected president.
Posted by ConradBaylor on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM
The people voted for atleast 2 more years of pretty much exactly the government they currently have.
That is not much of a victory for either party. The GOP had high hopes of picking up the presidency - and with this abysmally bad a president that should have been a slam dunk. Obama won - not resoundingly, on a platform of ..... what platform did he run on - anybody really know ? Oh yes, the Romney is an evil cretin who hates you, I am not that bad platform.
Sounds like a broad mandate for change to me.
Posted by asmith on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM
The liberal view of the economy is just like the Housing Bubble..
NO ONE thought the good times would ever end,
and prices would just keep rising.
Optimism is a grand ideal, but not when your check kiting between the Treasury, the TBTF’s, and the Federal Reserve.
Posted by Ron on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM
How did the democrats win completely if the people elected the republicans to a majority in the house? The people voted for divided government. If they wanted Obama to have whatever he wanted they would have voted for a majority in the house as well. There were plenty of people that voted for Obama and then also voted for a republican representative. The people don’t want either side to have what they want, they want compromise. They don’t want either side to cave and they don’t want either side to get everything. If you think the opposition should just roll over and play dead because they lost you’re a moron.
Posted by f_this_state on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM
Republicans are salivating at the prospects of a huge comeback in 2014. Not saying it won’t happen, but they now have less than 2 years to get on the right side of gay marriage, immigration,and abortion. Two more years of more young people reaching voting age, and old people dying off. So already swimming against the tide.They also have to hope the economy craters, when all indications are that it is improving, albeit slowly. If they can get their side to stop talking about lady parts, the perils of Univision (even a worse threat than MSNBC!), and who Ellen gets to deduct her taxes with, then they may have a chance. But I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by Xandersun on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM
In their wisdom, the founders provided us with a weak central government. It can really only do things upon which we all agree. It was designed that way, and Mr. Gerard no doubt wishes that weren’t true. Tough. I not only expect the House to block the President’s agenda - I demand it.
Posted by west4567 on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Sport, like the article said, you lost, big time. Stop your bitching and face up to reality. Your party is made up of old, white pasty rednecks, who so want to be back there with Wally and the Beaver. Until the Rethugs purge themselves of right wing extremists and join the twenty first century, you will repeatedly screw yourself for another four years. Maybe 2024, slingblade.
Posted by GymRatPro on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:27 PM
we have a separation of powers for a reason. The Dems did not win the House. It is not the House’s job to roll over for POTUS.
Posted by fiebinator on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Do you understand what gerrymandering is ?
You can not get a majority of seats in the house by Gerrymandering.
There is no way that you can re-arrange political boundaries such that a party with the minority of popular votes ends up with the majority of seats.
The purpose of Gerrymandering is to create impregnable seats for powerful incumbents. It does so by increasing the risk of losing other seats.
Posted by asmith on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Dear God, what are you doing? Don’t stop a zombie from digging its own grave!
Posted by Xandersun on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:30 PM
If the republicans pass a bill with tax cuts for everyone and obama or the senate reject it then it will be the democrats that are denying cuts for the middle class. Rasing tax rates for the wealthy is more important to the democrats than a middle class tax cut. If democrats actually cared about the middle class they wouldn’t threaten to take us over the fiscal cliff just to push class warfare.
Posted by f_this_state on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM
So, answer the math question then…
If you get $1.6 trillion over 10 years, that’s $160 billion a year…
What does $160B do in an ocean of $1.1 trillion?
Is the other half of that equation $4.8 trillion in actual cuts?
Cause according to the President’s own budget, he see’s another $6.6 trillion in debt.
You could take, in my opinion, half of defense and leave yourself $350 billion,
that get’s you to $4.45 trillion more to go.
Posted by Ron on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Not if the GOP were demanding nothing less than complete capitulation from the Dems, then mere compromise from Obama wouldn’t be enough
Posted by Andrew Ryan on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Gosh - a union thug accusing the Speaker of the House and the GOP House majority of “defying the people” by obeying the will of their own constituents. Someone should tell this moron about the separation of powers and the notion of checks and balances. And while they’re at it, they should remind him that the Congress is supposed to pass a budget every year and yet the democrat Senate has never voted on one since Obama was elected.
Mr. Union Thug, the House of Representatives is in opposition, and it is the job of the opposition to oppose. We will do so to the best of our abilities until we have the opportunity to take the country back from leftist scoundrels such as you.
Posted by WBC on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM
If republicans didn’t lose control of the house during this election then there is virtually no chance they lose seats in 2014. Just 2 years ago republicans gained ~50 seats in the house before any kind of gerrymandering and now all of a sudden, only 2 years later people think the party is really on the verge of collapse even though they still hold ~40 seat lead in the house? They kept that lead even though in the election a week ago more democrats came out to vote than republicans.
Posted by f_this_state on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Wake up, socialists - the House is still in Republican hands, with marching orders to stop Obama. You big city leftists can scream all you want about how you have some mandate to tax and regulate the inner states into oblivion. But you don’t, and the proof of that is that those inner states elected Republicans to Congress to stop you.
Four more years of legislative paralysis is actually a great thing, for those of us who believe too much, too intrusive government is the problem.
Posted by Jawaid Bazyar on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM
The Dems won? Then why do Republicans still strongly control the House? The status quo won. People voted to keep things exactly the same. Both Obama and Boehner have to deal with that.
Posted by Kevin Morris on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM
Wake up Leo. 72% of all new jobs over the past two years came from right-to-work states. Freebies and union preferences do not work.
Posted by Daryel on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Dems won? Uhhh, false. Our republic reelected Obama AND GOP controlled House. Get over it.
Posted by go_figure7722 on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Yeah, I’m not saying there isn’t better than a slight chance the Republicans will still do ok in the 2014 elections. But like stocks, past political performance is no indication of the future. The Republicans have to understand they are slowly becoming a living epitome of a Greek tragedy. A really good and cool guy that comes apart due to a tragic flaw. Limited government and reigned in spending is a fantastic message. But alienating significant portions of the population by getting on the wrong side of social issues is a major flaw. With the changing demographics, it could be a tragic flaw. Just think back 8 years ago to the 2004 election. Would you ever have imagined that gay marriage, which was used as a bludgeon by Karl Rove to bring out the party base to massacre the Democrats could have flipped so quickly into a weapon to be used against Republicans? It’s startling. Even if you disagree with the social policy positions of the Democrats, yelling at women, minorities, and gays and lesbians will get you about as far as yelling at white Southerners in 1860 about the corrupt influences of slavery.
Posted by Xandersun on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Dang the Dems did not win the House of Representatives; I know they got a mandate. Fair or not your argument works both ways. No smack down, clown.
Posted by StormDog on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM
Hey “sport” the GOP still controls the House by a large margin. Get over it.
Posted by go_figure7722 on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM
How’s that liberal Government doing in your home county, Leo?
Oh, that’s right, Harper is a Conservative and Canada is booming under his leadership!
Stop using tool logic, Leo!
Posted by Guinness_Beer on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Hey, Sport, “We won, you lost” is not the appropriate way to lead when your opponents control the legislative gates. It’s not even the right way to lead when you control the gates, roads, and everything else on the legislative path. Obama doomed himself to never getting anything passed when he told Eric Cantor “Elections Have Consequences. I won.” That attitude caused the Republican party to dig in and fight him tooth and nail at every turn. The heavy opposition and gridlock is due to Obama being completely inept at leadership.
Posted by Borismkv on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM
See comment above. Gerrymandering was a wash. The GOP did well in NC. The Dems stomped in AZ, CA, and IL
Posted by Mark A Abramson on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM
Gerrymandering was actually a wash—see above comments
Posted by Mark A Abramson on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM
If the Dems want a mandate, they will have to earn it at the ballot box. That means either winning the House or electing state legislators and governors who can then gerrymander the districts to their liking. Until then, we have gridlock, and it is what the voters wanted as THEIR elected representatives.
Posted by Mark A Abramson on Nov 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM
Except if you look at Canadian policy, their “conservative” party supports policies (nationalized health care and some gun control) more like our Democrats. And their Liberal party is even more to the left.
Posted by Xandersun on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:01 PM
This article is a joke, right? Every seat in the house was up for re-election and the Republicans won a convincing majority of them. Oh well, I think this Barak Obama quote sums it up best: “Maybe peace would have broken out with a different kind of White House, one less committed to waging a perpetual campaign—a White House that would see a 51-48 victory as a call to humility and compromise rather than an irrefutable mandate.”
Posted by Anon on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM
How does one respond to an article like this?
I suppose the best way would be to recommend a rudimentary civics class that explains how our government works.
Posted by MoFreedom on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM
The Republicans maintained the House…Constitutionally the source of ALL funding Bills. In addition Republicans gained in Governors and States House seats.
Sure, Obama won re-election…but he had to lie to do it.
What kind of victory is that?
Posted by KellyJ on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM
I can certainly understand that feeling, the only thing is, while the dems are trying to turn the country into some kind of s***hole, Republicans generally love their country and wish to see s***hole status avoided.
Posted by KornKing on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM
shut up, you staggering, arrogant little fool. there are 58 million americans, at least, who want to be represented by house republicans, and not by the clinical personality disorder occupying the white house. that’s what “balance of power” means, j-off. that the minority (that’s right, we’re a minority, lmfao), are also represented, also have the means to push back against excesses in the majority rule. so go pound sand, you little tool, or maybe move to venezuela, where the kind of dictatorship you wish for is in force. lizard.
Posted by subframer on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM
Republicans won the House, and we are still a democracy, a system of checks and balances designed to prevent tyranny from taking hold.
Posted by Republican House on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Every single member of the house was elected this past election including John Boehner. If they are Republican’s they were not elected to raise taxes on anyone. They were elected to fight Obamacare. No member of the house misses an election. They run every two years.
Posted by John on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Wake up Gerard, the GOP controls every level of government apart from the White House and Senate, a mirror image of the situation back in 1981. http://thecitizenpamphleteer.w…
Posted by Bart DePalma on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:32 PM
It seems that despite having risen to the position of a union president, the author of the above column failed to absorb the fundamental principles by which our republic functions, once taught in high school civics classes. While Obama was re-elected to a second term, it bears noting that 435 representatives in the House also stood for election at the same time, most of them (the incumbents) pinning their chances on their constituent’s opinions of their performance during the past two years. In that election, the Democrats lost. A less partisan observer might conclude from this that most voters approved of the manner in which those re-elected performed their jobs, including the fact that they had opposed the very policies this author claims their votes now validate. That suggests that whatever reasoning the voters used in casting their votes to re-elect Obama, those votes were by no means intended to validate the policies their representatives opposed both in the past, and in the campaign. The bottom line is they expect both Obama and their representatives to bargain over policy choices, compromising only in the interests of reaching a mutually acceptable agreement. It is not the purpose of the House to rubber stamp the President’s policy proposals, nor has it ever been.
Posted by ProudTexan on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:34 PM
Merely because our socialist, economic and historical neophyte managed to lie his way to re-election is no reason to abandon the welfare of the country! The House and the Republican governors are out last line of defense against the progressive/socialist/communist crowd who have no idea what they have wrought. No Compromise with Obama bin Lenin! No more surrendering of our liberties and freedoms to a bunch of elitist fools whose vision of themselves standing on the podium in Red Square receiving the adulation of the masses, a la Lenin and Stalin, is our nightmare!
Posted by KentCrawford on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM
I am in total agreement and I think most conservatives would line up behind that strategy. The only “mandate” Obama has is among those who don’t pay. Easy to vote that someone else pay for your freebies and goodies . Let the whole thing go down the democrat way. It will be stunning in the rapidity which the US economy folds. It would send a message loud and clear. Democrat financial policies are toxic and destructive.
Posted by nemcrna on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:42 PM
Why should they? It is Obama bin Lenin who is responsible for the non-recovery and the additional $ 6 trillion of debt, not to mention the 23 + million unemployed and under-employed [which with ObamaCare will be the new normal]. Why should the Republicans in the House compromise with more of his idiotic policy prescriptions that have been proven ineffective and just plain bloody wrong?
Posted by KentCrawford on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:46 PM
Did you notice the subtle difference in how he defines the wealthy now? Now he is coming after the fruits of your labor if you are in the 2%. That would set the bar for wealthy down to $120,000. After he cleans them out the bar will be set lower every time they want more of someone else’s money. Soon it will be your turn to be considered rich and you better be ready to ante up
Posted by nemcrna on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:47 PM
So you really think 51% of the vote is a mandate to embrace all things Obama? Really? If that were true, why didn’tthe dems take the house?
Posted by tomgriffith on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM
yeah, but it’s fine if the dems want to fraternize with race-baiting preachers and black panthers. that’s because it’s only politically correct to discuss outlier white people, never outlier people of color. yeah, that makes sense. as for “old” and “white”, why don’t you go wash your racist little mouth out. the party of “tolerance.” lmfao
Posted by subframer on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM
Hey Sport. It’s ill mannered people like you that give a bad name to any party you belong too.
You should probably just stick to the gym and let the grownups talk
Posted by tomgriffith on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM
That’s right, don’t stop the zombies from digging there own grave! The Republican Party is getting older, whiter, and more extinct each election. Deny it at your own peril, Rush has become my new hero! Oh yeah, I forgot to mention your other hero Norquist, I love him too! As well as Cain, Bachman, Perry, Santorum, and all of the other winners that are so in tuned with the way the country is growing. We are becoming much more of a melting pot and you all can’t stand it. Did you see a difference in the make up of the crowds between the Dems and Repubs? I know, I know, I’m crazy right? Keep thinking the Repubs won, I wonder what you all would be saying if the roles were reversed and mittens had won. “We’re going to take back our country!” “Obama doesn’t know what it means to be an American!” Ha ha ha…
Posted by Nadhiyr on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM
If the “Dems” won, why are Republicans still in the majority in the House?
Posted by Matt Ostrander on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM
Obama won his 1/3 of the election. The GOP still holds the House. Nothing has changed. Status quo.
Posted by enviro_nazi on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Dems have two of the three legislative branches. Repubs loss seats in both the house and senate. Anything the house passes num nuts has to get passed by the senate, you do know that don’t you dumbass. Also I’ll put money down that if the repubs f this up they will be the minority come 2014 dumbass.
Posted by RepubHater on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM
You do realize the term “Speaker Boehner” implies that his party won the House, right?
Posted by Matt Ostrander on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Mr. Gerard, You are backing the progressive/socialist/communist crowd because you expect to get some goodies for doing so, in the form of economic and/or political power. But have you ever asked yourself what would happen to you and union members in general if your chosen politicians managed to enact all of their agenda?
How happy would your membership be if their salary/pay from the State were the same as, say, a street sweeper, or department store clerk, or theater usher, or low level bureaucrat? Or if they had to give up their nice house and automobiles to live in a government apartment in the city, so the suburban land can be turned into collective farms? And the salary/pay is just barely enough to live poorly, and there is no opportunity to make any more or improve their lot in life…
This is the “fairness” your chosen politicians are really promising, where only the political elites live well…but it has the dubious virtue of equality of results…
You and your members really need to re-think where your real interests lie.
Posted by KentCrawford on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM
You can also go the other direction and give the other party guaranteed wins in several locations to make 10 other races slight or moderate favorites for your side. We see this in PA were no republican candidate won by a mark higher than 60% of the vote but every single dem did (and two of them in philly won by more than 80%).
As to your point about not getting a majority of seats by gerrymandering that’s rather obviously wrong. It just happened even though democrats got more votes nationally than republicans for house positions. The only reason that Republicans retain control is that there are gerrymandered districts allowing a few huge dem wins and a lot of very slim to moderate rep wins.
Posted by Michael Meers on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM
No it was not. Dems received more votes nationally than Republicans. I would concede that that could easily produce a slight majority for reps simply with a few election oddities and the national vote not being reflective of state level votes. However, it was quite obvious in PA, OH, FL, and NC that gerrymandering allowed republicans to control more seats than the vote would otherwise have suggested. The vote in CA would suggest a huge dem majority as CA went dem by 20 points in the national election. However, PA, OH, FL, and NC were all very close and with the exception of NC went dem nationally. But each state is sending at least twice as many republicans to the house as dems. That’s an obvious case of gerrymandering.
Posted by Michael Meers on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:17 PM
Don’t equate the “American people” with voters. Just because Democrats managed to drag more voters to the polls than Republicans did, doesn’t mean the “American people” want everything the Democrats are selling.
Of the 160M-170M registered voters, Obama got 60M plus, which means 100M voters did not choose Obama.
Get over yourself.
Posted by foodforthought on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:24 PM
We won the House and I did not vote for Eric Cantor just so that he can rubber stamp Obama’s agenda. The House Republicans have a full mandate to obstruct, undermine and destroy our enemy in the White house through all legal means at our disposal. As your sort so enjoys putting it “Get over it” because we will do as we please and there is not a damn thing that Dear Leader Comrade Commissar Obama can do about it.
Posted by Worsham Abbott on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Typical bull crap by the left. Democrats didn’t win anything. Seems to me the status quo was the winner and that means the House belongs to the Republicans. I hope they stick to their principals, Democrats have none!!
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:31 PM
CA? Seriously? IL? Seriously? Both of these states have been in the bag liberal wacho states for years!!
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:34 PM
The House is the represented by the majority and that majority is Republican.
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Please point to one specific compromise as proposed by your black messiah!!
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:37 PM
o-blama ran first time around on cutting the deficit in half and unemployment at or below 6% in four years!! How’d that load of carp work out for Amreica??
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Leo, go back in your hole, everyone is wise to you. The people didn’t vote for tax increases, they voted for more give me’s….and “give me” a break on the loss of 7 house seats as being considered a major upheaval. I would think that would be more like the 63 your ilk lost in 2010. The same people who voted for Obama voted for a Republican congress. They call that checks and balances for imbeciles like you.The vast majority of Americans are NOT willing to do their part to support this country. If that were the case, we would have a President Romney….What I love about you is that you are a CAnadian, and have NO business offering your opinions, the vast majority of Americans would agree on that
Posted by jatazus1 on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:39 PM
News flash!! The House majority is Republican!! Get over it!!
Posted by Michael Mclarty on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:40 PM
Sport ? If the repubs lost then why does Obama need them ? He has no super majority like before because repubs won the house by a wide enough margin even rinos can’t help Obama.
Posted by robertbyrd on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM
and your party, SPORT is made up of the three F’s…..Foreigners, Freeloaders, and Fags….
Posted by jatazus1 on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:43 PM
get your head outta your ass shit for brains. Reps won 241 federal elections to the 220 Dem victories. That is the people speaking!
Posted by Bill Rambler on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:43 PM
Since the Korean War how many rich people go to war?
Posted by D Tanksley on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 PM
People who wanted this loser are going to have to feel acute and personal pain before they get what we have been yelling about for 5 years now. Once the pain is personal and your family is suffering the bloom will be off the Obama rose. When the govt runs out of money to feed the takers. That is when things will get interesting. Better be well armed to protect you and your’s because they will be coming to take it when the gravy train runs dry and they start getting hungry and the Obamaphone gets no dial tone
Posted by nemcrna on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 PM
The self-same union from which steelworker union member Joe Soptic emerged in
the now infamous Obama SuperPAC ad.
Let’s follow the bread crumbs, shall we?
First, let’s begin with the basics.
As all of America now knows, the Obama SuperPAC has run an ad with former steelworker Soptic essentially accusing Governor Romney of killing his wife.
ENOUGH SAID!!. YOUR PIECE OF WORK LEO, ANYTHING YOU SAY HENCEFORTH IS AS CREDIBLE AS THE CREEP AT THE TOP
Posted by jatazus1 on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Hey buddy, when people lose an election they do not give up the right to be represented. I expect the members of congress that I voted for to vote as they campaigned. If you have a problem with that, sorry!
Posted by Steve Hanna on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM
President Obama did win the election. The result is absolute and unambiguous.
All the power and legal authority in the office of the President belongs to him for four more years.
The election result was clear:
50.3 % of voters chose Obama to be President.
49.7% of voters did NOT choose Obama and do not support his vision for the US.
Half of Congress, the Senate, has a Democratic majority
The other half of Congress, the House of Representatives, has a Republican majority.
The Left never got behind President Chimp Bushitler.
Why would the Left expect the Right to support anything President Obama does?
To the victor go the spoils but the President is not emperor. He has a lot of power but he leads by persuasion not by force.
Boehner and McConnel swore their allegiance to the Constitution of the United States
not the President of the United States.
Posted by BCanuck on Nov 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM
It is unlikely that Obama’s zombie hordes of Africans will turn up at the polls again in 2 years, especially given the rather severe recession already waiting in the wings. This election saw the Republicans attain the highest share of the white vote in history, winning 61%. Those voters will show up for the 2014 midterms and we will increase our numbers in both the House and the Senate.Just think what will happen when we hit 70%+ of the white vote. At the very least, we will control most state legislatures in our states and the House for many years to come. Whites are beginning to wake up and will vote against the Democrats in the same way that our black adversaries vote against the Republicans. Oh and by the way Mr. Gerard, I have resolved too never again buy any product made by an American labor union. ESPECIALLY AUTOMOBILES.
Posted by Worsham Abbott on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:01 PM
Uh, no, the Democrats did not win.
Bohemer is doing the will of the people that voted to keep him as Speaker.
Posted by Dave Acklam on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM
The only reason the Republicans won the House is because they have gerrymandered the House map in their favor. FACT: Democrats got more votes in the House than Republicans did.
Posted by CraigInPhoenix on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Because Republicans at the state level have gerrymandered the House map.
Posted by CraigInPhoenix on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Uh, Boehner wakes up every day and he’s Speaker of the House. How’s that possible if Democrats won? Does your screed have a point because It makes absolutely no sense. Obama was re-elected so now the congress has to obey him? Is that what you’re trying to say? Because if it is waking you up will not cure your stupidity.
Posted by bluesdoc70 on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Actually, the Liberal Party in Canada is just barely center-left. The left wingers are in the NDP.
Posted by Guinness_Beer on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:10 PM
I wonder if the people who are claiming that because the Republicans held the House are even aware that there were a half a million more votes cast for Democratic House seats than for Republican House seats. Claiming that they have some sort of mandate because they held on to the House because of gerrymandering is ridiculous! The majority has spoken and the GOP refuses to respond at their peril.
Posted by Connie O on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM
Seems like I heard this same argument before this election.
Posted by Connie O on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM
The Democrats in the South agree. We also believe that we are not being represented by our elected leaders. The bottom line though is that the President won the majority of votes in the whole country by over 3 million.
Posted by Connie O on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM
get ready for Chairman Issa’s gavel Dems. Republicans control the purse strings and subpoena power… when we’re done with you Watergate/Lewinsky-gate will look like child’s play.
Posted by sanatty on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:24 PM
The Electoral College is proportional. Why do you think otherwise? The system was established to prevent the very largest population centers from dominating the entire country. Eliminating it would be an enormous mistake.
Posted by jmquillian on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM
To be sure the Dems won but that doesn’t mean that the laws of economics were repealed. The country is running annual trillion-plus dollar deficits and the President’s proposed tax increases on those making over $250,000 a year amount to only seventy to eighty billion dollars annually. Federal Debt is now over 100% of GDP, generally considered the upper limit. A radical restructuring of the country’s fiscal policies (taxing and spending) is unavoidable. Closing a revenue/expense gap this large to be sure will be a wrenching experience for all concerned. Unfortunately it has to be done.
Posted by al checchi on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM